Originally posted by -K-M-
Actually as noted by wolverine he has died HUNDREDS of times. Every time he died he fought Lazaer and if Wolverine defeated him, he got to come back to life. He eventually lost this immortality and wolverine commented his healing factor was diminished. Drowning could always kill him as he noted but don't see Sampson using that hereNow on that note. I do think wolverine can win this
I'm (personally) just commenting on some of the outrageous claims being made, like he never gets hit, or just going to beat Samson down in a fist fight, sans claws.
Originally posted by leonidas
yeah i don't really find this thread to be even debatable tbh. logan has also downed the abomination iirc. samson has essentially no shot, not if we go by comics and accumulated feats. /shrug
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0da74a941d99950e32d492c29d15bff3
Originally posted by leonidasthe only reason it's still being debated is because any time a wolverine vs thread comes out, at least one poster says "No. Logan getting hit by a 100 tonner would kill him!" in spite of all of the showings to the contrary. Several posters then proceed to jump on the bandwagon and say "yeah, one punch will leave him without his skin!" and they proceed to back this up by providing scans without the context, low showings, and generally bringing real world logic into a comic book debate.
yeah i don't really find this thread to be even debatable tbh. logan has also downed the abomination iirc. samson has essentially no shot, not if we go by comics and accumulated feats. /shrug
I'm not pointing fingers, I'm just letting you know what the pattern is.
Originally posted by riv6672
If you're going there, Samson has KOd the hilk (with context). Wolverine has been KOd by much less power than that.https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-0da74a941d99950e32d492c29d15bff3
and he's easily tanked more than that too--too many times to ignore.
sure samson has a couple decent showings. no one is saying he doesn't. but if you go the route you just did he REALLY has no shot because you're choosing to look at his best feats. if we go by best feats samson gets utterly and completely buried. if we look at their respect averages, logan kills him without all that much trouble. his showings against bricks is simply too telling, as are his feats. for samson to have any chance here we literally have to ignore....dozens upon dozens of logan's feats. and i'm not talking about his best ones. samson has no great healing feats even to try and keep him in this. like i said, he really doesn't stand almost any chance here, barring flat out ignoring logan's history. /shrug
Originally posted by riv6672This is Doc Samson we're talking about here. He punches moderately hard.
He said 'beat' not 'kill'.
But i get that didnt fit your narrative, so you ignored it for your rant.'lol'
So when I read ' a thousand ways to beat' yeah, I went a little hysterical and ranted a bit.
But until I bring reality and math into the discussion 👆
Originally posted by StiltmanFTWGood argument. The problem is he does have speed. He can generate faster than bullet speed punches. Barring PIS, Logan is not dodging that type of speed.
Let's assume Samshot can indeed one-shot Logan... in a non-bfr scenario --- okay, then he needs some SERIOUS speed. He doesn't have it.Wolverine does. And the claws that went right through Terminus and penetrated Gladiator's shoulder and Hulk's skull can surely one-shot Samson.
Originally posted by h1a8😆
Good argument. The problem is he does have speed. He can generate faster than bullet speed punches. Barring PIS, Logan is not dodging that type of speed.
Even if you are right, Logan doesn't have to dodge. He takes it and retaliates.
If his claws are out Doc dies.
For KMC's sake, read Wolverine #1 onwards.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Gorgon DID kick Wolvey to Georgia...But yeah, someone as smart as Doc SHOULD be able to figure it out. Whether he is fast enough, though, is another matter.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Lol they speak english there?
I've encountered many people from all over Europe who speak perfectly competent English as a second language, so it's certainly plausible. I'd be scratching my head more that Wolverine didn't notice the accent than the farmer happens to speak English.
Originally posted by leonidas
and he's easily tanked more than that too--too many times to ignore.sure samson has a couple decent showings. no one is saying he doesn't.
The scans i posted were just in response to leonidas' huge low balls.
Just to show outrageous claims work both ways.
How many bricks has Logan killed?
More specifically, how many bricks of the 70 ton level and above?
Anyone? Anyone?
Or, simply defeated? Im just curious.
Funny thing... I had conceded and decided that Logan takes this match. But, the more emu contributes, the more Im thinking I was correct in backing Samson.