Originally posted by Bashar Teg
"but obama"weak and impotent line of argument as usual. 👆
But nothing, this wasn't Trumps idea. Not to mention I don't even agree with giving money to SA, no matter who is the one giving the money.
So if people need to shout "Trump gave money to SA!!!!!" each time a muslim explodes a bunch of innocent people, okay? I will still denounce these attacks when they happen.
Originally posted by Steve ZodiacMost Saudi's I know and I know many are also far from extremists.
The Bush's are closer to KSA than anyone... They both have a lot of dealings with Aramco. I don't judge that to be honest, when the English and later the Americans backed all present continuing regimes it was with oil in mind. That's realpolitik.
Originally posted by Surtur✅ He's visited many countries most of you never will for work. The truth is I've lived in Egypt, Nigeria and KSA, as well as Thailand and France. Not bad for a white brit. 🙂 I've visited almost everywhere in Africa, India and Asia as well as much of North America, Europe and Oceana. Your point?
Well that settles it. Steve's many connections to various Saudi's have allowed us to finally see the truth.
Originally posted by Patient_Leech
I think I finally understand why Islam is a religion of peace... it's because it's peaceful as long as you're a non-human species. Islam isn't cruel to animals, is it? Because apparently if you're human you are definitely at risk of experiencing Islam's "peace" very severely.
I mean at this point you can't even post a topic where Muslims are murdering others over Islam. Why? Because suddenly now you're trying to "tar all muslims in a specific way". You can't assume it's all Muslims(which nobody did), but you are certainly free to assume any and every attack committed against a Muslim is always because the person was a Muslim. It is quite strange how that works out.
Now if some Christians had slaughtered a bunch of Muslims for similar reasons, do you think they'd call a thread about it pointless?
Originally posted by Beniboybling
Alright man, let's get back to the important stuff then, hit us up with another mussie joke. 👆
I'm not a comedian. I am however, capable of seeing what a ridiculous pile of horseshit Islam is. It's actually quite plain to see, and it's astonishing that more people don't openly recognize it.
Originally posted by Silent MasterSome have opinions I don't adhere to as do many people worldwide. I know no Saudi's who endorse terrorism and in fact, most are very clear on their dislike of it. The way the news media portrays Saudi Arabia is disingenuous. But then everyone needs a folk devil.
Which implies that some of the Saudi's you know are not far from extremists.
For example, since the second world war, more Europeans have been killed by Poles than Muslims.
etc. The above statement re Poles is an example of disingenuous Trumpist style media spin, despite being true and the numbers far exceeding 9/11
It's very easy to tar nations/people/religions in a single way. Good and Bad People exist everywhere.
Some ground realities to consider: http://abuaminaelias.com/freedom-of-religion-and-apostasy-in-islam/
There is no ruling against apostasy in the Holy Quran.
This is a political construct in some countries.
Indeed. Apostasy in Islam is a complex issue.
Look here:
Richard Dawkins states that Islam demands the killing of those who leave that Islamic faith.
Then he presses Muslims on this issue:
It seems that they are unable/unwilling to give him the straight answer. Why is that?
Apart from that an Ex-Muslim supports this critical position towards Islam, giving example of sexualization of young girls in Islamic schools, women being diminished as human beings etc.