Originally posted by Emperordmb
Inept?Zenwolf has provided some pretty solid arguments for stormtroopers being underrated in the past, but as far as I can tell the superiority of clone troopers is established in the lore regardless of whether or not stormtroopers are elite or absolute shit
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Originally posted by Emperordmb
however this is specifically 100 on 100, even numbers, whereas Palpatine was not opting for an army of less efficient soldiers that was the same size as the one he had before.
Source?
The clone troopers of the GAR were trained from birth to do nothing but be soldiers and grew up with their comrades, whereas imperial storm trooper training for recruits is only two years, and the clones grown in spaarti cylinders were grown to maturity in only a year and only given flash-training... I think the people in this thread are seriously underplaying the difference in the length and quality of the training the clone troopers of the Republic and the Stormtroopers of the Empire underwent... that's not even to mention the considerably greater combat experience your average clone trooper would have in comparison with your average stormtrooper given the clone army was fighting a full-scale war against an army that had them considerably outnumbered whereas the Empire was fighting a war against a Rebel Alliance they significantly outnumbered who usually resorted to guerrilla tactics against the Empire.
This seems like an entirely baseless and conjecture based argument however, you have zero factual evidence backing this up. Besides, as Wolf has said, after a certain amount of time training becomes routine not necessarily rapid advancement. The vast majority of the Clone's training regiment would also be fitness training, which doesn't require formal training, only the fittest and best soldiers were even accepted into the Stromtrooper academies.
You also don't seem to understand, or seem to take into account, the phenomenally different training regimens the Clones and Stormtroopers were subjected to. Believe it or not, time is not the be all end all of development, pushing yourself beyond your perceived limits is often far more advancing than pushing yourself close to your limits on a daily basis. To that end, Stormtroopers were trained under barbaric circumstances, on high gravity planets such as Carida that subjected their muscles to agonising weight until they adapted. Stormtroopers were killed left right and center during training, not stunned using dummy blaster rifles. The fact of the matter is Stormtroopers were expected to excel far beyond the capabilities of a Clone in their training stages or die, two years was enough to force that level of growth. This is idea is perhaps best manifested in the fact that B3 Ultra Battle Droids - considered a challenge for Windu and Tiin together - were training foes on Carida, these droids were designed to tear through Clones like knives through butter, and would never have been standard training targets during the Galactic Republic.
By all means, come at me with actual proof that one training regime is better than another, but the notion that the Clones had better training because it was longer is absolutely farcical.