Jeremy Corbyn Respect Thread

Started by lazybones3 pages
Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Yeah, just like his champion of social justice, Fidel Castro.

I don't know why so many people make such a big deal out of Corbyn's comment about Fidel Castro. If I recall, several world figures said similar things when Castro died, it's simply a matter of courtesy. And Corbyn was calling Castro a champion of social justice in regards to his efforts to bring an end to apartheid in South Africa.

For all his flaws, Castro’s support for Angola played a crucial role in bringing an end to Apartheid in South Africa, and he will be remembered both as an internationalist and a champion of social justice.

And apparently, South Africans agree. I can't post links, but there are articles which suggest that this is the case. For example, this one from NY Times:

Fidel Castro, a South African Hero

DURBAN, South Africa — Nelson Mandela once wrote that “there is no passion to be found playing small — in settling for a life that is less than the one you are capable of living.” It is almost as if Mandela had Fidel Castro in mind when he wrote those words.

There is no in-between space where Castro can be ignored or dismissed. He was either loved or loathed. To his enemies, he was a dictator. But to South Africans who suffered under apartheid, he was a beacon of freedom.

Originally posted by lazybones
I don't know why so many people make such a big deal out of Corbyn's comment about Fidel Castro. If I recall, several world figures said similar things when Castro died, it's simply a matter of courtesy. And Corbyn was calling Castro a champion of social justice in regards to his efforts to bring an end to apartheid in South Africa.

Then they too are bloody idiots, then. I bet they'll praise Robert Mugabe in a similar fashion when he finally kicks the bucket.

Originally posted by lazybones
I don't know why so many people make such a big deal out of Corbyn's comment about Fidel Castro. If I recall, several world figures said similar things when Castro died, it's simply a matter of courtesy. And Corbyn was calling Castro a champion of social justice in regards to his efforts to bring an end to apartheid in South Africa.

And apparently, South Africans agree. I can't post links, but there are articles which suggest that this is the case. For example, this one from NY Times:

Same reason the left condemns fascism but accepts communism despite the fact that communism has far far more dead behind it.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Then they too are bloody idiots, then. I bet they'll praise Robert Mugabe in a similar fashion when he finally kicks the bucket.
Well, I don't think they're idiots, but rather cautious about saying anything inflammatory (albeit true) as they don't want to damage foreign relations. We've already got a fair share of hostile tinpot dictatorships to deal with, so adding more to the list probably isn't a good idea.

Originally posted by Scribble
Haha, okay. Aside from him confirming in his campaign that he would write "the letter" to Trident if we were attacked, and all of the "supporting extremists" stuff being nonsense made up by the media. Sure. You clearly know your stuff, mate.

Oh and he wrote something on a wall!? He must literally be Satan.

👆 it's truly dystopian, a man who would rather solve problems with words is villified. I think if somone said to me would you sanction a nuclear strike. I couldn't give a yes or no answer. Killing millions shouldn't be an easy choice. Not if you're sane anyway.

Originally posted by lazybones
Well, I don't think they're idiots, but rather cautious about saying anything inflammatory (albeit true) as they don't want to damage foreign relations. We've already got a fair share of hostile tinpot dictatorships to deal with, so adding more to the list probably isn't a good idea.
Cuba isn't a threat militarily or economically

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
The man who couldn't answer on whether or not the UK would defend itself if attacked?

And by that you mean he wouldn't answer about throwing a nuclear bomb back at a country who threw one first.

Perhaps because getting into a nuclear war would be a really stupid, destructive and ultimately pointless thing to do.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
👆 it's truly dystopian, a man who would rather solve problems with words is villified. I think if somone said to me would you sanction a nuclear strike. I couldn't give a yes or no answer. Killing millions shouldn't be an easy choice. Not if you're sane anyway.

👆

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And by that you mean he wouldn't answer about throwing a nuclear bomb back at a country who threw one first.

Perhaps because getting into a nuclear war would be a really stupid, destructive and ultimately pointless thing to do.

Holy shit, that has got to be the single dumbest thing I've read in years.

If the UK is getting nuked, it is in a nuclear war. As much as the liberals view MAD as a horrible policy it has allowed us unprecedented peace. When you drop "Mutually" you Assure Destruction.

Originally posted by Henry_Pym
When you drop "Mutually" you Assure Destruction.
cute. 🙁

Corbyn is the man.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Corbyn is the man.

He's a tool.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
And by that you mean he wouldn't answer about throwing a nuclear bomb back at a country who threw one first.

Perhaps because getting into a nuclear war would be a really stupid, destructive and ultimately pointless thing to do.


Even if he wouldn't actually retaliate, not saying he'd retaliate is stupid. It's essentially telling other countries with nukes that they could nuke the UK without getting nuked back.

As long as nukes exist, MAD is what prevents their use, and someone who doesn't want nuclear war would be wise to commit to that.

He's not as great as Dennis Skinner I'll grant you. If he was a tool he'd be an industrial sandblaster cleaning away the shi of new labour, renovating and making socialism great again.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Even if he wouldn't actually retaliate, not saying he'd retaliate is stupid. It's essentially telling other countries with nukes that they could nuke the UK without getting nuked back.

As long as nukes exist, MAD is what prevents their use, and someone who doesn't want nuclear war would be wise to commit to that.

Yeah, it's exactly like that, you're right. It's not like if the UK got threatened with nukes or got nuked any other country would care or retaliate. It's just like you said, without a hint of irony or sarcasm. If the UK said we wouldn't participate in nuclear war, then China could nuke us and expect not even the slightest bit of global consequence. The US wouldn't give a shit. The rest of Europe? Snooooze. The UN committee – sorry, the United Kingdom of Great What and Northern Who-land now!?

Your point is just so incisive I can't find a single thing wrong with it. Wow, well done. You truly do understand how this nuclear armament stuff works, my dude.

Alright, this Corbyn fellow does indeed sound like a decent guy, like he's clearly not going to knee-jerk and immediately launch the UK's nuclear arsenal even if a nuke goes off in the UK before he's weighed all the outcomes 👆

Jesus, even Jill ****ing Stein has a bigger set of balls than Corbyn.

Sticking to your principles = having no balls.

Lel.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Sticking to your principles = having no balls.

Lel.


Sticking to principles of gutlessness is indeed having no balls.

cool story bro, btw, doesn't Jill Stein want to get rid of America's nuclear weapons?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
cool story bro, btw, doesn't Jill Stein want to get rid of America's nuclear weapons?

I don't know her stance on nuclear weapons, but at least she stated that she would order military action in a case of an imminent threat to the US.