sb prime vs destroyer

It's the only time Thor beat it single-handedly, other times he held his own at best, but not outright beat it. Except with thunderstrike in thor #476 i think.

Also, Odin has outright owned Destroyer several times. He even made it bow forcefully in front of him, and manipulated the life force in it several times which effectively neutralizes it. Even in the loki instance, Odin blocked Loki's mind from trillions of thought-years (whatever that means).

Regarding Hela -- for reference, Kurse (another trans level character) has been owned by Hela in her realm and she even claimed that his power is nothing compared to hers. She has done other impressive things as well.

Originally posted by abhilegend
OK, name one above herald level being its beaten. Thor alone has fought it like a dozen times and other than the disintegration beam its never been able to overwhelm Thor outright. Wear him down but specifically overpowering him? Never.

Originally posted by operator616

Also, Odin has outright owned Destroyer several times. He even made it bow forcefully in front of him, and manipulated the life force in it several times which effectively neutralizes it. Even in the loki instance, Odin blocked Loki's mind from trillions of thought-years (whatever that means).
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But this speak for the Destroyer raw power. Even Odin had to find a exoteric way to beat it of just blast or punch it.

Originally posted by leonidas
i've brought that up in the past. that's...a bit ambiguous. seems like the presence of the spirit's body played a role in that fight. regardless, definitely an outlier:

https://imgur.com/a/AXJeu

that has never happened before or since to my knowledge. /shrug

The closest times would be that one in ure scan(still plot device) and the one operator mentioned, but again plot device. Thor and Thunderstrike took advantage of a pause in the fight when Blake soul was trying to break free of Hela's control and caused some kind of malfunction within. This ultimately led to Garm losing control of the Destroyer. So yeah plot device.

Originally posted by eaebiakuya
But this speak for the Destroyer raw power. Even Odin had to find a exoteric way to beat it of just blast or punch it.

No it only means that it's the most effective way Odin has of neutralizing the destroyer. It doesn't necessarily mean that he can't overpower it in sheer power. Because as i mentioned before, Odin has outright made the destroyer forcefully bow before him and then extracted Thor's life force from it.

http://imgur.com/a/0sL5R

It's been referenced recently that Serpent had the power to slag it.
Odin is a peer to Serpent.

KT no sold it's D beam.

Mjolnir decapitated it.

These are all showings within what SBP is capable of. If anyone disagrees then I can prove it. One at a time though.

lol

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
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It's never been overpowered outright other than by the Phoenix through seemingly esoteric means since the body was still intact. Of course the Phoenix is a universal level entity...
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The closest times would be that one in ure scan(still plot device) and the one operator mentioned, but again plot device. Thor and Thunderstrike took advantage of a pause in the fight when Blake soul was trying to break free of Hela's control and caused some kind of malfunction within. This ultimately led to Garm losing control of the Destroyer. So yeah plot device.

never saw the pf scans before. 👆

i'm still not sure who wins tbh. minus plot device, sbp would need to actually disable the armor--ie--rip it apart. by narration, the armor is said to be harder than uru or adamantium due to the enchantments. could he damage that level of armor? what impact would the d-beam and the host of others powers it have on sbp? we know it's capable of destroying mjolnir with its power, so.... shrug

by narration or by handbook?

my bad, by handbook regarding the hardness of the armor. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
you...just asked the same question i asked you. 😐

you said he's no good beyond herald, so i asked show me. you say, who's he beaten above herald....

Yeah, because that's the same question.

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thor has been pummeled by the destroyer numerous times. he wins via plot device. the armor has beaten thor, karnilla and loki at the same time iirc.

That has never happened.

in the armor i know thor beat the **** out of hela--in hel. that is a very good feat.

Hela is a straight ***** though. Thor alone under Simonson beat the shit out of her who was the writer of that scene as well.

obviously maestro was toying with hulk--who'd continued to get stronger and stronger, according to narration and at the end he was still easily taken out.

ermm

That's the same writer who had Storm and Cable outright kill Hulk and Thor stalemating him for hours.

aside from a skyfather (thor beat it in the reigning, though in times past odin was said to be UNABLE to beat it, so, meh) and a celestial, who HAS beaten the destroyer?

Phoenix force, OF Thor, Majeston Zelia and Serpent was said to be too powerful for it.

Now tell us about the beings who it has beaten.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
That's not true at all

The D-beam would kill prime.

Originally posted by JBL
The D-beam would kill prime.

It might singe his cape.

Standard sb prime wins still, but gets a little batter up in the fight.

@abhi: so how did the conflict between thor, loki and karnilla go down...?

pretty sure that was where it bowed to odin--but only because thor was animating it and was able to control it to do so. then he pulled thor out.

and regardless of writers, hela has been extremely impressive at times, even considered a peer to mephisto (i know she's beaten hell lords directly in the past), and smacking her around like she is nothing in her realm is very impressive despite your effort to make it sound like it was nothing.

ANYWAY.....

Originally posted by leonidas
without plot device, i think it's pretty much impossible for heralds to beat, unless i'm not remembering a time. what times are you talking about where it wasn't impressive? not including thor 300 for some obvious reasons....

so then how about you go ahead answer the question i asked you first? 👆 the ones you named are all skyfathers of in the case of the pf--above. you initially claimed it wasn't impressive. so, back up the claim.

Originally posted by leonidas
@abhi: so how did the conflict between thor, loki and karnilla go down...?

pretty sure that was where it bowed to odin--but only because thor was animating it and was able to control it to do so. then he pulled thor out.

and regardless of writers, hela has been extremely impressive at times, even considered a peer to mephisto (i know she's beaten hell lords directly in the past), and smacking her around like she is nothing in her realm is very impressive despite your effort to make it sound like it was nothing.

ANYWAY.....

so then how about you go ahead answer the question i asked you first? 👆 the ones you named are all skyfathers of in the case of the pf--above. you initially claimed it wasn't impressive. so, back up the claim.

Destroyer was also powered by Thor when he beat Hela who was so powerful that Destroyer actually became sentient and drew his soul in. It wasn't some normal version of Destroyer who beat Hela.

You're asking as if Prime lacks the feats to rip apart Destroyer. Him destroying Monarch itself shits on any durability feat from Destroyer.

Where are these awesome feats from Destroyer?

Originally posted by leonidas
@abhi: you initially claimed it [the destroyer] wasn't impressive. so, back up the claim.

if you were trolling to troll, whatever. if you think it's not impressive, answer the question. what trans or lower character has ever beaten it? and why monarch? this is just standard superboy i'm talking about. you know, the one connor gave fits. 👆

Originally posted by leonidas
if you were trolling to troll, whatever. if you think it's not impressive, answer the question. what trans or lower character has ever beaten it? and why monarch? this is just standard superboy i'm talking about. you know, the one connor gave fits. 👆

LO3W SBP would ruin someone like Odin much less Destroyer.

When SBP ripped Monarch apart the amp wore off. And I'm told that the guardians are not that powerful anyway.

When I said it's not impressive outside of herald tier I meant that it has virtually zero feats beating someone outside herald tier. I don't know why that means I'm trolling though.

Originally posted by abhilegend
OF Thor, Majeston Zelia and Serpent was said to be too powerful for it.

Now tell us about the beings who it has beaten.

Curse you Ahbi 🙁