Originally posted by Silent Master
Some morons are claiming the Ajax using a gun makes him more powerful than people that use explosives.
Even if we humour that argument, the only scene I can recall Ajax using a gun in was during the highway scene, while he was on a bike. He only had a pair of axes during the final battle. And when he did have a gun, his aim was so shit that he couldn't even hit Wade at virtually point-blank range, despite it being an automatic. And one use hardly qualifies as it being standard gear. Hawkeye used a gun during the beginning of Avengers (and managed to shoot Loki in the face). Green Arrow has used guns at various points in his career, and with a high degree of proficiency.
But anyway, the notion that simply having a gun makes you more powerful is f****** retarded. You still need to be a capable marksman in order to utilise it effectively, especially against opponents of their caliber. Hawkeye has taken on Chitauri, Hydra soldiers, Ultron drones (and they used guns), just that we know of. Green Arrow takes on and defeats gunmen all the time, and has even beaten CW Deadshot, while the latter had guns.
Originally posted by TheVaultDwellerThe arrow men use stealth and cover. In a quick draw where both are within 20feet of each other then the gun man will win every time. Ajax is very capable with a gun. He would own Green Arrow or Hawkeye in a quick draw scenario.
But anyway, the notion that simply having a gun makes you more powerful is f****** retarded. You still need to be a capable marksman in order to utilise it effectively, especially against opponents of their caliber. Hawkeye has taken on Chitauri, Hydra soldiers, Ultron drones (and they used guns), just that we know of. Green Arrow takes on and defeats gunmen all the time, and has even beaten CW Deadshot, while the latter had guns.
Ajax and Bane are without a doubt the two bottom feeders in this list.
Sure, Bane can lift Batman above his head, and Ajax can indeed impale someone into the ground with and then bend rebar. Those feats pale in comparison to just being able to kamikaze nuke someone or shoot someone with an exploding arrow.