Odin vs. Progenitor

Started by DeadpoolXXX2 pages

Odin vs. Progenitor

odin-
https://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/9/95/Odin_Borson_%28Earth-616%29_by_Immonen.JPG/revision/latest?cb=20120129203152

v.s.

progenitor-
http://www.cosmicteams.com/legion/profiles/images/Legion2/Element_LegionLost_11_2001.jpg

I'd probably be inclined to side with Progenitor.

He created an entire galaxy just to keep him company:
http://i.imgur.com/50gqdWw.jpg

He also contained the 'Omniphagos' -- a creature that was already galaxy-level, with the potential to consume the whole of existence:
http://i.imgur.com/vEZDQBL.jpg

*For those unfamiliar with Progenitor: he is essentially Element Lad with billionS of years of experience mastering his powers, thanks to a rather unfortunate series of events:
https://i.imgur.com/kUwU1f8.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ybLbhHj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TJCQdWL.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DTqtHMG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ESbkYb5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZI7nGlC.jpg

He's no less than a high-end Skyfather, imo.

Odin wins pretty decisively. Far more experienced in combat and Jan's best feats in this incarnation are pretty shitty compared to some of Odin's greatest ones (Galaxy level vs. Multi-Universal). IIRC he was implied to have created a galaxy (Which is cool) but he was around for billions (?) of years and he was going from world to world, manipulating cultures etc. I don't remember him snapping his fingers or casting a spell and creating a galaxy for example.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Odin wins pretty decisively. Far more experienced in combat and Jan's best feats in this incarnation are pretty shitty compared to some of Odin's greatest ones (Galaxy level vs. Multi-Universal). IIRC he was implied to have created a galaxy (Which is cool) but he was around for billions (?) of years and he was going from world to world, manipulating cultures etc. I don't remember him snapping his fingers or casting a spell and creating a galaxy for example.

Has Odin created a galaxy? He needed time to create Asgard after all.

Odin restored everything he destroyed as Infinity.

He was amped by the sliver of abstract Infinity. And they were planets at the end of universe. Not galaxy.

Yep.

Silver Surfer's evolved life. Odds are, given enough time and the materials to work with (As Jan didn't create the base components, he simply manipulated them), he could create his own species too.

The Omniphagos containment is really impessive though. I believe that same material allowed Jan to survived through the Big Bang.

Originally posted by cdtm
Odds are, given enough time and the materials to work with (As Jan didn't create the base components, he simply manipulated them), he could create his own species too.
He definitely can...because he did:

Originally posted by abhilegend
He was amped by the sliver of abstract Infinity. And they were planets at the end of universe. Not galaxy.

No he wasn't.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
No he wasn't.

Yes, he was retconned in Quasar 19 to tapping the power of Infinity to do so.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Yes, he was retconned in Quasar 19 to tapping the power of Infinity to do so.

I know all about that panel. It implies that the rogue aspect of Odin was a portion of Infinity not just a crazy aspect of Odin called Infinity* wrecking havoc across the Universe but what does that have to do with Odin restoring all the damage with a wave of his hand after he defeated Infinity?

*Not sure which is more impressive but the story was retold with no mention of the cosmic abstract Infinity after Quasar #19 so it's moot anyways.

Progenitor.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Odin restored everything he destroyed as Infinity.
do u have this feat handy? i'd like to see it.

Originally posted by Zack M
Progenitor.

Odin.

Odin.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
do u have this feat handy? i'd like to see it.

how extensive was the damage caused by infinity, cuz all the scans says is "on every world where carnage hath occurred" ? 😕

and why did odin use his power scepter to undo the damage? could he have done that without it?

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
how extensive was the damage caused by infinity, cuz all the scans says is "on every world where carnage hath occurred" ? 😕

and why did odin use his power scepter to undo the damage? could he have done that without it?


Asgardians tend to put emphasis on weapons and tools, but the scepter is generally a tool to channel the Odinforce. It's been stated more than once that his true power resides deep within himself. Iirc the scepter's first appearance, it was all but useless when Loki tried to use it and was explained later where the Odin's power really resides.

A good portion of the universe was messed up going by the arc and handbooks.

so minus the scepter do u think he could have still undone the damge? how much more difficult would it have been for him solo?