Originally posted by Damborgson
ermmThus the distinction. It's the reason people say SA Mangog when they want to limit his showings to "classic".
His SA showings are not that good either. Its a lot of hyperbole and beating a weakened Odin.
Ok. The point that Odin had faced Mangog before Mangog's first comic book appearance, had been alluded to throughout his Asgardian appearances. Especially, by Odin.
The fact that Odin sh*ts his armor every time he even discusses Mangog, is specifically written that way, to drive home the fact that Mangog is above him.
The fact that Odin makes statements depicting the hopelessness of fighting Mangog, his own lack of anything even resembling a hope of defeating Mangog and the actual fear Odin expresses points to the fact that he had-
1. Faced Mangog's original race, resulting in an unwinable confrontation, in which he felt that Asgard would fall against them, unless he too drastic action. Creating Mangog in the process.
2. Then, faced Mangog himself in the distant past. This meeting is obviously the source of Odin's terror. It can b guessed that, since the Mangog's race came from "real space", Odin may have been a bit more "liberal" with the use of his power and attacks. The reason we don't see Odin using his Serious Punches, is because he already used them on Mangog, to no effect. Unless somebody can come up with a scenario where Odin goes easy on him for some reason.
3. We know that Mangog's race had conquered 1,000 galaxies. We know that Odin felt that Asgard had no chance against them. So, we r talking about a billion billion beings that are either equal to the asgardians, or well above them in terms of power and technology. When u think about it that way, then combine all of them into one entity, it makes it easier to imagine how Mangog could b placed even above "skyfather" level.
4. Odin had the power to reach out to 1,000 galaxies and launch his attack upon "a billion billion beings". A billion billion "godlike" beings. This was not his first choice. This was his final option. Obviously, direct combat had failed. So, Odin lashes out across 1,000 galaxies.
5. Then, Mangog lives. The final battle begins and ends. The only option Odin has, is to trap Mangog beneath asgard.
And that only covers the backstory before his first comic book appearance. He's not just a "big monster".
Classic Mangog was the Sum of a Billion Billion beings, quite probably more powerful than Asgardians, WITH Odin.
Originally posted by Insane TitanI'm not going to lowball. If it is valid then I'll go with it. I like Thanos more than Mangog anyway and prefer him to win. I just don't see how.
you are not worth the time or effort. As always you lowball and downplay Thanos. Hell you say Thanos constantly beating Surfer is a low showing for Surfer.
I don't think Surfer can affect Thanos with blasts or punches. But he can damage him with black holes and hitting him with the board. Surfer, under character, will not be using black holes to beat Thanos though. The board from behind is only done if Surfer gets knocked off his board. So it would be very hard for Surfer to beat Thanos.
Originally posted by h1a8stop talking shit and lying as the first part of your post is a bold faced lie.
I'm not going to lowball. If it is valid then I'll go with it. I like Thanos more than Mangog anyway and prefer him to win. I just don't see how.I don't think Surfer can affect Thanos with blasts or punches. But he can damage him with black holes and hitting him with the board. Surfer, under character, will not be using black holes to beat Thanos though. The board from behind is only done if Surfer gets knocked off his board. So it would be very hard for Surfer to beat Thanos.
Thanos can survive black holes... because he has:
http://i.imgur.com/RNQnQHP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T2bPeCv.jpg
Originally posted by Galan007to keep things honest, I have to agree.
Thanos can survive black holes... because he has:
http://i.imgur.com/RNQnQHP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/T2bPeCv.jpg
Thanos was obviously able to experience existence in many dimensions with different laws of nature, without any protection and suffered no permanent ill effects.
I still think Mangog wins.
Mangog>Odin>Thanos
As far as Ive seen, Mangog has never shown any sign of injury.
Even when Thor God-Blasted Mangog down his throat, besides a cloud of smoke, no clear view of Mangog was shown. No actual damage was shown, and the scene ended up as bfr as Mangog fell away and Thor immediately left the scene.
Keeping the referrences as close to home as possible, the battle between Thanos and Odin left Thanos completely wrecked.
