Originally posted by Sin I AM
Did Onslaught face anyone above High Herald?
Did the Serpent, Phoenix 5 or the worthy face anyone over Herald level? Anyways, it was outright said that Hulk was above EVERYONE during the time he faced Onslaught so I feel confident that puts him above Herald level. Said that he was above all of Earth hero's, COMBINED.
Originally posted by byrdgang21
Not that I can remember. Unless somebody wants to argue for mindless hulk :/
Yea. I hate how trans tier amd above chars dont get to be pitted against others in their tier or higher
Originally posted by carver9
Did the Serpent, Phoenix 5 or the worthy face anyone over Herald level? Anyways, it was outright said that Hulk was above EVERYONE during the time he faced Onslaught so I feel confident that puts him above Herald level. Said that he was above all of Earth hero's, COMBINED.
Will you shut the phuck up already? JFC Noone is lowballing Hulk here.
This is the team that was ready to fight Onslaught... a team far less powerful than this has wrecked trans tiers recently...
https://theunspokendecade.files.wordpress.com/2014/12/courage.jpg
Originally posted by leonidas
lol anyway, team 1 wins. not sure about bfr though--didn't at least a few figure how to dimension travel? creel and titania visited the infinite mansion or whatever it was called, no?
Kuurth cant be bfred. I dont think Cul can either. The rest were meh save Nul. P5 was equally garbage. Fight probably comes down to Cul and Onslaught
Originally posted by leonidasYeah, I didn't think about this until after the fact, but one of the [several] tactics the X-Men tried against Kuurth involved Pixie 'porting him to a different location on earth...But he auto-returned within the space of a single footstep:
lol anyway, team 1 wins. not sure about bfr though
And we also know TP attacks aren't slowing him down either, because even Emma /w/ Cerebra(which amps phychic abilities to the tenth power) was still completely overwhelmed when she tried to mindphuck a helmetless Kuurth:
http://i.imgur.com/hmFkXIL.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/MJzZect.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0ZBQm9I.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Gk8svmm.jpg
The only question I have is if Kuurth could still auto-return from BFR if he were dumped into a completely different universe/dimension..? mmm
yeah the more i think on this, the less sure i am tbh. i assume the serpent upgrade would keep this from happening to juggs this time..?
but...i'm not 100% sure. assuming each of the worth are about thor level--and i think that was pretty firmly established the P5 should still be considerably more powerful. not sure how powerful the serpent became but even if he killed the P5 the last survivor would be much more powerful than he was i think--or he should be considerably more powerful. and the PF would def be powerful to override the cyttorak enchantment at that point anyway...
never mind--team 1 still takes this every time imo. though some of the 5 may actually fall. /shrug
namor wrecked a powerful group of heroes. they were stabbed through the head, shattered, beaten down, but physical force showed again and again to be mostly useless against them. they bled but really nothing impacted them save wanda's chaos magic and hope. thinking about it a little more, not seeing how the worthy would do...anything really, to even 1/5 of the force. forgetting onslaught. /shrug it would fall mostly to the serpent to take them down i think.
Originally posted by leonidas👆
yeah the more i think on this, the less sure i am tbh. i assume the serpent upgrade would keep this from happening to juggs this time..?but...i'm not 100% sure. assuming each of the worth are about thor level--and i think that was pretty firmly established the P5 should still be considerably more powerful. not sure how powerful the serpent became but even if he killed the P5 the last survivor would be much more powerful than he was i think--or he should be considerably more powerful. and the PF would def be powerful to override the cyttorak enchantment at that point anyway...
never mind--team 1 still takes this every time imo. though some of the 5 may actually fall. /shrug
Especially factoring in absurdly haxx showings like this:
"It took ALL OF US just to knock him down... It took ALL WE HAD!"
*Only thing that saved the Avengers there was direct intervention from Wanda... Who is not in this thread.
Originally posted by leonidas
namor wrecked a powerful group of heroes. they were stabbed through the head, shattered, beaten down, but physical force showed again and again to be mostly useless against them. they bled but really nothing impacted them save wanda's chaos magic and hope. thinking about it a little more, not seeing how the worthy would do...anything really, to even 1/5 of the force. forgetting onslaught. /shrug it would fall mostly to the serpent to take them down i think.
Wasnt it physical force that caused them to each lose their portion of the pf to begin with?
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Wasnt it physical force that caused them to each lose their portion of the pf to begin with?
nah, not sure where you got that. obviously wanda's chaos magic was the only real danger to namor. colossus and ilyana took each other out in a fight between them and emma gave scott her power. no physical force beat...any of the 5. hope smacked scott around with wanda's powers and the magic of the dragon to boot, + some of scott's own pf. they all laughed at thor at various times in the series. i can't see the worthy really doing anything to any of the 5. /shrug
