could the lotr makers be racial?

Started by muse52 pages

i like what both geldorn and ush said up there, i think that they both have really good points, i definetly don't think that tolkien was a racsist, for their reasons, they say it better than i would

I think that this accusation is stupid, there probably were black ppl in the movie but ,most ppl were in costume anyway, and does it matter? jrr tolkien focused on the fellowship not background people walking aroun Bree inn or something

hmmmmmm.....i think that its unfair to call tolkien racist to much
He was from a different time and people weren't so much into racial and gender correctness.

And yeah LOTR and middle earth was based on English mythology
The reference to the black riders, dark lord and black gates have nothing to with race( as a coloured person i can sence negative racial undertones)

Mythology across the world has always put black and dark shades with gloom, fear and mystery. It had nothing to do with race, that i believe
people who say otherwise may be tooooooo sensitive.

Peter Jackson merely went with the book for the movie cast......eg Rohan and Gondor peoples were close to nordic races, so there was no way that a coloured person could have been used as one of the actors. Things like that people should consider before they open their mouths and start kicking a fuss.

hi all,
i think i've read the most intelligent reviews in this forum about the racist stuff and i must commend everyone who has put in a thing or two. yeah i started this thread, all because i wanted to know what people's views are about the subject, not that i'm accusing tolkien of being a racist.
yeah your guess is right, i'm black but not bothered that there are no black people in the movie..i have overheard people bring up the subject around me which iu had fought vehemently, and so i wanted to know the view of others about it. lotr is a great movie and i really enjoyed your views about the issue..it shows how mature people in this forum are and thats really intersting. feel free to add any more in this thread...i always lok forward to your replies... 😄

mature? dude i aint mature and u were just screwin wit peeps testin us like that. dont do that shit. and its racist not racial.

There are even black people living in Gondor;
they just didnt show them yet in the movie.

nice to know you're not mature pink..it's pretty obvious and thanks for the correction.....but really i had to draw attention to those who thought tolkien was a racist by reading these reviews..i wasnt messing with you guys......

Tolkein wasn't racist at all, you need only dig up the stuff he said about such subject matters...as hitler, since the book the hobbit did seem to poke fun at Jews, requested that such a racial view be implimented in a German print, and Tolkein came down on him so well, it gives hope that there is indeed decency in the world.

Remember too that Tolkien believed that light shined the brightest when it is at its darkest hour. Black is just the representation of evil not race.. look at all 4 Darths from Star Wars.

its also sexist but thats just because thats how the world was when it was written

If Tolkien wouldve been a racist, he hadnt made the Hobbits and the Drúedain...
And Aragorn wouldntve given back the land to the Haradrim and the easterlings.

yeah good oint though..

I think that tolkien was neither racist nor sexist, this is because of the many points exa has shown and everyone else about racism and he couldn't have been sexist because he made the most powerful elves women and eowyn was happy to fight.

a lot of people here REALLY need to READ all the posts before posting....you just end up making yourselves look bad.. just a heads up.

this is not directed at any one person....just please read before posting...

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y-e-a-h you do that

lol i learn't to do that a long time ago..............but when there is over 40 posts it gets kinda tiring

yeah i mean its hard to read them all and it just means were either agreeing to what theve said or letting people in on our thoughts

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