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White supremacists call themselves white nationalists, it’s not a term I invented. And Trump’s election does matter, millions and millions of primarily white people chose to elect Trump despite his track record of racism, perhaps even because of it.

That's not what it means though.

I don't care who voted for him. That doesn't automatically mean people shouldn't accept one another nor does it give one group the right to say anything they want to another because of past events neither group was alive for.

Originally posted by Surtur
Dude you just said black people can say anything about white people because "they earned it" lol. That doesn't trigger me, it's just hilarious to see you just finally come out and show who you are.
Who am I? Someone who understands race relations? Someone who is aware of the history between black Americans and white Americans?

Originally posted by socool8520
That's not what it means though.

I don't care who voted for him. That doesn't automatically mean people shouldn't accept one another nor does it give one group the right to say anything they want to another because of past events neither group was alive for.

This reminds me of a recent article:

Hispanic GOP Rep. denied membership to Congressional Hispanic Caucus

"Some members said they believed Curbelo’s request was politically motivated and intended to help bolster his re-election bid. Lujan Grisham cited Curbelo’s refusal to co-sponsor the Dream Act, which would have given legal residence to illegal immigrants who were minors and met certain qualifications. Curbelo said he would vote for the Dream Act if it reached the House floor. She also said his efforts to repeal Obamacare and support of the GOP tax bill weighed heavily in their decision."

IOW: You don't share our views so you can't join.

Originally posted by Scribble
Why can't we just discuss it now? Is the rise of such vile individuals and groups not a good reason to show that the discussion needs to be had sooner rather than later?
Guess this is so irrelevant that it's ignore-worthy. Okay then.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Who am I? Someone who understands race relations? Someone who is aware of the history between black Americans and white Americans?

I can't tell if this is satire or not.

Originally posted by Firefly218
Who am I? Someone who understands race relations? Someone who is aware of the history between black Americans and white Americans?

You clearly don't understand race relations, or at least how to fix them if that's your conclusion. History is just that, history. A white person now should not have to endure hatred from a black person any more than a German should endure the hatred of a Jewish person. That's dumb and in no way helps race relations.

Originally posted by socool8520
You clearly don't understand race relations, or at least how to fix them if that's your conclusion. History is just that, history. A white person now should not have to endure hatred from a black person any more than a German should endure the hatred of a Jewish person. That's dumb and in no way helps race relations.
You don't think Mongolians should pay reparations to the entire Middle East and northern Africa for Genghis Khan's war crimes? Racist!

Originally posted by Scribble
Guess this is so irrelevant that it's ignore-worthy. Okay then.

Firefly clearly doesn't have good reasoning in this matter. It absolutely should be the time to advocate integration and acceptance from all groups. One getting belated revenge wouldn't help that in the slightest.

Originally posted by Scribble
You don't think Mongolians should pay reparations to the entire Middle East and northern Africa for Genghis Khan's war crimes? Racist!

IKR!! I don't know what's wrong with me.

Originally posted by Scribble
Guess this is so irrelevant that it's ignore-worthy. Okay then.

I'm all for discussing it. I do not like nazis or antifa.

Having said that....some people are acting like we have some sort of nazi or kkk epidemic now. The numbers for all these groups are incredibly small. It doesn't mean they can't do damage, but I don't want this to become some sort of panic either.

Originally posted by Scribble
Guess this is so irrelevant that it's ignore-worthy. Okay then.
No you’re correct, I agree with you and have nothing to contest. The social conversations need to happen now, in spite of Trump. But black people being wary of white people IS part of the conversation, there’s no getting around that.

^Yeah, but that has nothing to do with Black people being allowed to say whatever they want because history. lol Nobody ever gets anywhere with insults and mistrust. There has to be some compromise on both sides and joint effort to come together.

Originally posted by socool8520
^Yeah, but that has nothing to do with Black people being allowed to say whatever they want because history. lol Nobody ever gets anywhere with insults and mistrust. There has to be some compromise on both sides and joint effort to come together.

Hell I'm mostly Irish. Maybe I can tap into those sweet sweet atrocities that happened in the past and get my victim card.

Originally posted by Firefly218
No you’re correct, I agree with you and have nothing to contest. The social conversations need to happen now, in spite of Trump. But black people being wary of white people IS part of the conversation, there’s no getting around that.
I just feel that sticking to the white/black dichotomy is a particularly insidious element of the whole thing. As if it can be put into such blunt categories. I also see black people being 'wary' of all white people as essentially synonymous with the whole 'bullied becomes the bully' thing. I can understand why some black Americans would be that way, but I don't think it's the right way to be. A lot of the black/white stuff, like "Can my kids be friends with white people?", seems to completely ignore the fact that, shock horror, lots of black and white people are already friends and have been for ages.

A lot of white people can be shitty and racist, even subconsciously so. But judging all white people by their actions and beliefs is, by definition terms, racist. And more importantly, it does damage to overall race relations.

We have to stop living in the past, especially when it comes to race relations. Nobody will argue that the atrocities committed to the African Americans was completely awful, but what does bringing that up every time we talk about unification going to accomplish? Nothing save for bitterness and resentment on both sides. I wish we could all cut the shit and just start fresh. Let go of the bitterness, it doesn't help anyone.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hell I'm mostly Irish. Maybe I can tap into those sweet sweet atrocities that happened in the past and get my victim card.
The Irish thing is important, imo. Because Irish people, even here in the UK, were often referred to as 'White [N-Words]'. That clearly shows that the racist terms created for black people have always been about power, not skin colour. Terms used to allow those in power, who happened to be white, to continue exerting control over those below them.

This whole pitting average black people against average white people is exactly what the powerful want. Keep everyone distracted with identity politics while they keep rolling through life, ****ing everyone over.

Originally posted by socool8520
We have to stop living in the past, especially when it comes to race relations. Nobody will argue that the atrocities committed to the African Americans was completely awful, but what does bringing that up every time we talk about unification going to accomplish? Nothing save for bitterness and resentment on both sides. I wish we could all cut the shit and just start fresh. Let go of the bitterness, it doesn't help anyone.

I am curious about the mechanics of this though. He is blaming slavery, so because of slavery in the past blacks can say what they want about whites.

So far that is easy to follow, but then what about other countries? Does it apply to the white people in the UK? Or is it just the USA?

I assume since the focus is on America, it only applies to us. I just think it's a terrible way to go about things.

Originally posted by Surtur
This reminds me of a recent article:

Hispanic GOP Rep. denied membership to Congressional Hispanic Caucus

[b]"Some members said they believed Curbelo’s request was politically motivated and intended to help bolster his re-election bid. Lujan Grisham cited Curbelo’s refusal to co-sponsor the Dream Act, which would have given legal residence to illegal immigrants who were minors and met certain qualifications. Curbelo said he would vote for the Dream Act if it reached the House floor. She also said his efforts to repeal Obamacare and support of the GOP tax bill weighed heavily in their decision."

IOW: You don't share our views so you can't join. [/B]

What do people think of this?

^ Do you have to be Hispanic to be a member?