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Started by Surtur922 pages
Originally posted by Robtard
Yes, I'm trolling you with Pool's own comment on his own politics. Brilliant, Surt. Just brilliant.

You got me, I thought you were smart enough to see his post wasn't serious.

Clearly you aren't. I will never overestimate you again.

Originally posted by Robtard
^ Time-waster-troll identified.

Whose time did I waste with that post?

Originally posted by dadudemon

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Originally posted by dadudemon
He wants universal healthcare, is considering universal basic income, thinks individual rights to do as you please are more important such as gay rights, thinks regulations are necessary to keep evil companies from taking over and ruining the world, thinks taxes should be used and poor shouldn't be taxed to oblivion.

That's off the top of my head.

We largely line up, politically. But he's a bit more left than I am.

In his "is "healthcare is a human right"" video he says he's in favour of a system for universal healthcare where people choose to pay in to it rather than forced by taxation and that he'd rather have any taxes used to invest in poorer communities to increase their chances of becoming healthier and more productive. Not entirely pro universal healthcare.

Most people who think long term realise that UBI is not only preferable but necessary to maintain societal cohesion as more automation and AI is introduced into industry and services. I think that's as equal on the left as it is the right.

I'll watch more later to see if what you say matches with what he says.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Take the teeeesst!

The test is irrelevant. If I disagree with you I get to decide where you lean politically. It's like you've learned nothing!

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
In his "is "healthcare is a human right"" video he says he's in favour of a system for universal healthcare where people choose to pay in to it rather than forced by taxation

Sounds like a Medicare for all solution. But he will quickly change his mind once he realizes everyone voluntarily participating in that "insurance pool" are required to pick up the bills of everyone else using healthcare.

He'll come around to full medicare for all, soon enough. 🙂

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
and that he'd rather have any taxes used to invest in poorer communities to increase their chances of becoming healthier and more productive. Not entirely pro universal healthcare.

I agree with this. This is a very social liberal policy based on research. Throwing money at poor people doesn't create much SEM. Creating systems that allow them to get better educations, not get pregnant, stay off of drugs is far more likely to give them SEM.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Most people who think long term realise that UBI is not only preferable but necessary to maintain societal cohesion as more automation and AI is introduced into industry and services. I think that's as equal on the left as it is the right.

No, right-wingers oppose this. You're thinking technocrats like you and I.

Creating a UBI system violates right-wingers "pulling up by their bootstraps" moral.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll watch more later to see if what you say matches with what he says.

Okay, good. See if you can find the video where he spouts off all the left leaning and social liberal stuff he believes in. He stated outright he supported universal healthcare in that one.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
I don't know all of his positions but I know he supports abortion and he likes regulations on businesses. Both of those are left-leaning positions.

Not sure what his position on gun control is. I do believe he supports strong borders but I may be wrong about that one.

Regulation on businesses seems to be a mixed bag at the moment. Always calls for regulations on finance to avoid another sub prime mortgage type scenario (DDM posted in detail about the repackaging and repackaging over and over of debt) as well as on fossil fuel companies, food standards, environmental standards etc. Mostly driven by centre left.

Also currently lots of calls for regulation of the big internet giants around free speech, public spaces etc mostly from the right.

Seems that area is an evolving topic regarding regulations and political allegiance.

I can't comprehend this need to see Tim Pool as right wing.

Are folk so pathetic they can't accept a leftist calling out bullshit that other leftists pull? Especially when he is a member of the media who correctly recognizes the rights shit gets focused on waaaay more than the left?

Originally posted by dadudemon

Mine:

Originally posted by Surtur
You got me,

Actually, it seems Pool got you.

Originally posted by Surtur
I can't comprehend this need to see Tim Pool as right wing.

That's who he pretends to be at least. Best you deal with it.

Where'd he get me? Post proof.

Warning: you might be banned if you imply a joke tweet by him is fact. The mods don't like folk making shit up and are consistent in hurling out punishment.

Originally posted by Robtard
Mine:

Awesome, thanks for taking it.

And your results are expected. You're barely left of me. I'm strong on the social stuff but very right on the energy stuff.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Sounds like a Medicare for all solution. But he will quickly change his mind once he realizes everyone voluntarily participating in that "insurance pool" are required to pick up the bills of everyone else using healthcare.

He'll come around to full medicare for all, soon enough. 🙂

I agree with this. This is a very social liberal policy based on research. Throwing money at poor people doesn't create much SEM. Creating systems that allow them to get better educations, not get pregnant, stay off of drugs is far more likely to give them SEM.

No, right-wingers oppose this. You're thinking technocrats like you and I.

Creating a UBI system violates right-wingers "pulling up by their bootstraps" moral.

Okay, good. See if you can find the video where he spouts off all the left leaning and social liberal stuff he believes in. He stated outright he supported universal healthcare in that one.

With regards to UBI, you can't take it in isolation. Or any issue for that matter. You can be left or right wing on most things and thus be regarded as such and still essentially be a pragmatic futurist and acknowledge the inevitability of UBI being necessary eventually. Otherwise we end up with a future akin to the movie Elysium.

As someone who lives in a country with a tax funded universal healthcare system I don't agree that a voluntary payment system would be considered that. It should be noted that here, as I'm sure you already know but others on here might not be, in the UK also has private healthcare companies for those who can afford it. That seems the fairest system. Everyone pays for it and has the right to use it but has the choice not to if they can afford it (private companies tend to be much quicker for treatment and slightly more advanced technologically speaking)

Originally posted by Surtur
Where'd he get me? Post proof.

Warning: you might be banned if you imply a joke tweet by him is fact. The mods don't like folk making shit up and are consistent in hurling out punishment.

Tim's own comments about himself, Surt.

If you want to say he was "joking", no problem. Show proof he was joking and this will be settled.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
With regards to UBI, you can't take it in isolation. Or any issue for that matter. You can be left or right wing on most things and thus be regarded as such and still essentially be a pragmatic futurist and acknowledge the inevitability of UBI being necessary eventually. Otherwise we end up with a future akin to the movie Elysium.

Libertarians and Technocrats are claiming UBI as their political ideology.

https://www.libertarianism.org/columns/libertarian-case-basic-income

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
As someone who lives in a country with a tax funded universal healthcare system I don't agree that a voluntary payment system would be considered that. It should be noted that here, as I'm sure you already know but others on here might not be, in the UK also has private healthcare companies for those who can afford it. That seems the fairest system. Everyone pays for it and has the right to use it but has the choice not to if they can afford it (private companies tend to be much quicker for treatment and slightly more advanced technologically speaking)

That system is the best system. Not sure why we don't do it.

"Here, here's some decent medical care that your taxes pay for. You can also get even better coverage if you pay for more."

We have that system with Medicare, already. 🙁

Originally posted by Robtard
Tim's own comments about himself, Surt.

If you want to say he was "joking", no problem. Show proof he was joking and this will be settled.

You're taking a joke tweet as evidence.

Okay, I guess you feel the disney producer who wished for it really wants to toss the covington kids into a woodchipper?

Originally posted by Surtur
You're taking a joke tweet as evidence.

Okay, I guess you feel the disney producer who wished for it really wants to toss the covington kids into a woodchipper?

Faulty Comparison. The ole FC, buddy.

Tim Pool talking about being a Centrist isn't an absurd comment. Granted, it's still a lie as he's a Rightist, but it's not comparable to wood-chippering people comments which is obvious hyperbole. You watch too much TV, Surt.

So I take it you can't post proof that Tim was "joking".

Classic Roberto.

Dodge. aka "The Classic Surt"

You've never proved Tim Pool is on the right.

Can you do it without a joke tweet?