Triggered: Stories to make you mad.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
It's 'woman' because woman was taken out of man:

[b]And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.-- Genesis 2:23

Yeah, I know that no doubt now there wil be a bunch of people scoffing at this but I don't care. This is the real reason for the word 'woman.' 👆

Very creative of Adam. [/B]

Originally posted by Surtur
Also, so we have this pedo who has decided to dress up as a tranny who likes little girls and is now approaching them in the girls bathroom.

People on the right said this would happen, and some on the left laughed it off. To those who did, do me a favor:

1-Find a bathroom
2-Look in the mirror
3-Punch yourself in the face

Rob for one, I know said this would never happen

Trigger warning, Tim Pool video:

Just After Voting For $15 Minimum Wage, Far left Democrat Calls For $20 Minimum

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Let me guess: if we dare criticize her we're racist, right leftards?

Originally posted by Surtur
Trigger warning, Tim Pool video:

Just After Voting For $15 Minimum Wage, Far left Democrat Calls For $20 Minimum

YouTube video

Let me guess: if we dare criticize her we're racist, right leftards?

Depends on where you live. Minimum wage should be $19 an hour in HI, for example, and it could be that high in places with very high standards.

The Straight Pride Parade is Being Oppressed

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When will these bigots stop oppressing straight people?!

Originally posted by dadudemon
Depends on where you live. Minimum wage should be $19 an hour in HI, for example, and it could be that high in places with very high standards.

But raising the minimum wage doesn’t help the low income families, nor the small business owners. For everyone the government raises the wage, small business take the hit the hardest.

Why should I, a small business hire someone and pay them $20 an hour? Also by forcing the wage to raise, everything else must also be raise. In the end, nothing changes.

Originally posted by Surtur
The Straight Pride Parade is Being Oppressed

YouTube video

When will these bigots stop oppressing straight people?!

When they rot and lie stinking in the earth?

Originally posted by SquallX
But raising the minimum wage doesn’t help the low income families, nor the small business owners. For everyone the government raises the wage, small business take the hit the hardest.

Why should I, a small business hire someone and pay them $20 an hour? Also by forcing the wage to raise, everything else must also be raise. In the end, nothing changes.

I've been searching scholarly articles for Minimum Wage and poverty. I am having a very difficult time finding something from 2008 or beyond that could indicate whether or not a much higher minimum wage would reduce poverty, on average, and improve the US, economically.

Do you have any studies in mind? Economic simulations? Case studies from other countries or cities? This topic is super interesting to me and I want to know the facts and biases.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Depends on where you live. Minimum wage should be $19 an hour in HI, for example, and it could be that high in places with very high standards.

Don't you think they are being unreasonable by immediately going from $15 to $20?

And we've already seen situations where people had their hours cut because of the raise to $15.

Originally posted by Surtur
Don't you think they are being unreasonable by immediately going from $15 to $20?

My answer is the same: depends on the location.

It's unreasonable to expect people in NYC to live off of $15 an hour. It's not feasible or realistic. $20 is closer to realistic. Same for London, Moscow, and Tokyo. Toronto, however, could be $17 an hour.

But in Oklahoma? That's a decent minimum wage. Probably $11 an hour is a better minimum wage in Oklahoma.

Minimum wages should be wages that are minimum enough for an individual to stay out of poverty and off of government assistance. That's why it is called "minimum." But no more than this.

We should be taking a no-nonsense approach to minimum wage and it should be set based on the hard work and economic analysis already being done by the US Government that sets the federal poverty guidelines and figures. Why waste money on another governing body when the leg-work is already being done? I'll tell you why: lobbyists don't want no-nonsense minimum wages. It would sharply increase wages in places like NYC and Honolulu.

Originally posted by Surtur
Don't you think they are being unreasonable by immediately going from $15 to $20?

And we've already seen situations where people had their hours cut because of the raise to $15.

The CBO already did a number of reports and analytics on this:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/08/739607964/-15-minimum-wage-would-boost-17-million-workers-cut-1-3-million-jobs-cbo-says

One of the things that is hard to forecast is how technology is going to play in replacing jobs in the future. So by 2025 there more than likely will be higher unemployment numbers for a # of jobs that can be replaced with kiosks and AI that can service through phone/ipads.

Actual CBO report done in July 2019:

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55410

I'll tell you why: lobbyists don't want no-nonsense minimum wages. It would sharply increase wages in places like NYC and Honolulu.

The sad reality is that a lot of jobs done in the service sectors are going to be replaced sooner rather than later, minimum wage or not there are a lot of service jobs going to disappear even faster with AI and min wage increases.

Originally posted by dadudemon
My answer is the same: depends on the location.

It's unreasonable to expect people in NYC to live off of $15 an hour. It's not feasible or realistic. $20 is closer to realistic. Same for London, Moscow, and Tokyo. Toronto, however, could be $17 an hour.

But in Oklahoma? That's a decent minimum wage. Probably $11 an hour is a better minimum wage in Oklahoma.

Minimum wages should be wages that are minimum enough for an individual to stay out of poverty and off of government assistance. That's why it is called "minimum." But no more than this.

We should be taking a no-nonsense approach to minimum wage and it should be set based on the hard work and economic analysis already being done by the US Government that sets the federal poverty guidelines and figures. Why waste money on another governing body when the leg-work is already being done? I'll tell you why: lobbyists don't want no-nonsense minimum wages. It would sharply increase wages in places like NYC and Honolulu.

So say there is a place where you need $20 an hour to live. What if the employer just can't afford that without firing people or cutting peoples hours?

Originally posted by snowdragon
The CBO already did a number of reports and analytics on this:

https://www.npr.org/2019/07/08/739607964/-15-minimum-wage-would-boost-17-million-workers-cut-1-3-million-jobs-cbo-says

One of the things that is hard to forecast is how technology is going to play in replacing jobs in the future. So by 2025 there more than likely will be higher unemployment numbers for a # of jobs that can be replaced with kiosks and AI that can service through phone/ipads.

Actual CBO report done in July 2019:

https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55410

The sad reality is that a lot of jobs done in the service sectors are going to be replaced sooner rather than later, minimum wage or not there are a lot of service jobs going to disappear even faster with AI and min wage increases.

Thanks for this. The CBO figures show that it would cause more people to fall into poverty than it would uplift.

The exact figure for a $15 an hour minimum wage says that the net change would be -1,500,000 million in poverty.

The more concerning figures are the "3-6 times federal poverty level" and the "6+ times federal poverty level": both of those figures show a drop. The only two income "brackets" that have a positive change are the "below poverty" and the "1-3 times poverty level". If no one pays much attention to my post, the only take away you should have is the net negative that the $15 an hour change would have. It would be ill-advised policy as the numbers do not support this. It would cause more people to become poor than it would help.

I am a technocrat. If these figures were arrived at with proper controls and not a political bias, then it suggests that policy should be informed based on this. It looks like $10 an hour is the safest and most positive option, all around. So it should be set at $10 an hour.

Do you agree?

Edit - Very thankful for you finding this. This is EXACTLY what I was wanting. You're awesome.

Originally posted by Surtur
So say there is a place where you need $20 an hour to live. What if the employer just can't afford that without firing people or cutting peoples hours?

They should go out of business and come back to the table when they can afford to run their business properly.

👆

You won't get sympathy from me on this part of the discussion. I've had to make these decisions for companies. And if we didn't have it in the budget to fill positions, we simply didn't. We had to cut back in other ways until we could afford the expensive people. That sometimes means not hitting your strategic roadmap and cutting out some goals and initiatives. Tough shit: cost of doing business.

If they go out of business the person who wants $20 an hour ends up getting $0 an hour.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Rob for one, I know said this would never happen

^ Another lie. Never change, TI.

I'm sure the rightist chaps are so triggered today because of Mueller.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I've been searching scholarly articles for Minimum Wage and poverty. I am having a very difficult time finding something from 2008 or beyond that could indicate whether or not a much higher minimum wage would reduce poverty, on average, and improve the US, economically.

Do you have any studies in mind? Economic simulations? Case studies from other countries or cities? This topic is super interesting to me and I want to know the facts and biases.

It’s been a while, but I saw this interview of Thomas Sowell, a well known economist. He spoke on the minimum wage.

If I find the interview, I’ll link it to you.

I am a technocrat. If these figures were arrived at with proper controls and not a political bias, then it suggests that policy should be informed based on this. It looks like $10 an hour is the safest and most positive option, all around. So it should be set at $10 an hour.

Do you agree?

I'm a fan of the Yang UI even though it isn't what I want to see happen I feel its the best solution for us moving forward with technology and globalization.

And yeah I agree with the 10$ an hour raise.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
I'm sure the rightist chaps are so triggered today because of Mueller.

There is literally no reason to be triggered over Mueller lol. Do better.