Originally posted by Robtard
Because you tried to make this about Clinton and it also showed Trump (the sitting president) having shit numbers. Cry some more now.
Im not crying at all, the first poll I referenced showed Trump still is more popular then her, which is amazing considered he lost the popular vote. So more people voted for her, she still lost and has higher unfavorables. The second poll I referenced was that he has a 50% approval rating among the 2600+ counties he won. I stand by those polls and numbers. Any president if attacked in the media with bad coverage 93% of the time would have low approval rating numbers.
Originally posted by Robtard
Who cares about Clinton.Trump's the sitting president and the poll you cited had him at 41%. That must really sting you Trumpers right in your busted out o-rings.
Poll numbers don't really bother me, Hillary Clinton not in office is evidence it has busted out all your though. Its going to be a long 8 years. Think about it, she will never be President, and Trump is, how does that make you feel?
As noted, now that the poll you posted has backfired, polls suddenly don't matter to you. LoLz, what a retard.
I've said "Clinton will never be President" many a time in here to retards (namely one) still flipping out over her. So I'm obviously fine/moved on, you clearly haven't and are still obsessing over her.
The polls aren't very surprising. Clinton had similar numbers in the campaign, as did Trump. They're both pretty unpopular.
The most interesting and relevant thing in that ABC/Washington Post poll, though, is the lack of support for Trump among independents, a group he won in the election, if I'm not mistaken. And probably the most important group in the entire electorate. Whoever they vote for will win the election just about every time, and they are beginning to sour on Trump. His approval rating among his base doesn't matter, his base didn't win him the election. The swing vote in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin did.
Originally posted by BackFire
The polls aren't very surprising. Clinton had similar numbers in the campaign, as did Trump. They're both pretty unpopular.The most interesting and relevant thing in that ABC/Washington Post poll, though, is the lack of support for Trump among independents, a group he won in the election, if I'm not mistaken. And probably the most important group in the entire electorate. Whoever they vote for will win the election just about every time, and they are beginning to sour on Trump. His approval rating among his base doesn't matter, his base didn't win him the election. The swing vote in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin did.
Independent voters are unpredictable but in his case they came around for him in 2016, if the ecoomy is doing great and things are in the up and up, they will come around again. Independents are becoming more distant and less accepting of identity progressive politics.
Originally posted by Sable
Independent voters are unpredictable but in his case they came around for him in 2016, if the ecoomy is doing great and things are in the up and up, they will come around again. Independents are becoming more distant and less accepting of identity progressive politics.
The other thing about independents is they don't really encompass one particular idealogy. There are some in the middle, some on the extreme far right, and some on the extreme far left. They're more diverse than any other group.
Yes if the economy is doing great then Trump will probably win, but what does 'great' mean? Does it mean how it's going right now? Because that's essentially just trudging along at numbers similar to those of Obama's economy during the last few years of his presidency. I doubt that will be enough with all the promise and bluster of Trump during the campaign.
The economy did enjoy a little bump when Trump won on the basis of believing that he may succeed on things like tax reform, but with healthcare reform all but dead, that puts doubt on the rest of his legislative agenda, which will cause the market, and indeed the entire economy to grow stagnant once again. We're already seeing that. As a result of the failed health care reform, the dollar is at a 10 month low.