Police shoot and kill Australian Woman

Originally posted by Robtard
I think it's great that people are demanding an investigation and answers when a cop shoots and kills someone; that's a sensible attitude imho.

What's funny here, the type of people who normally go some version of: "you weren't there, so you can't judge. The cops have a hard and stressful job; we need to trust their judgment!" whenever a cop shoots an unarmed black man are the most tenacious and demanding of answers here. I wonder why that is.

You don't actually wonder why that is Rob. You think it's just due to racism, amirite? Have the balls to admit it.

Are you #triggered today already, Surt? It seems like you are indeed #triggered already. Was it Bashar this time? I ask, cos I don't think it was me. Was it me?

Originally posted by Robtard
Are you #triggered today already, Surt? It seems like you are indeed #triggered already. Was it Bashar this time? I ask, cos I don't think it was me. Was it me?

If this behavior is an example of being triggered then you and bash have long been triggered.

Quick, you can deflect this with a "no you" response. I'll even allow you to ignore all the times you pulled a "no you", aren't I nice in the things I let you do?

Your standard "no you!" retort has been noted. /noted

Originally posted by Surtur
You don't actually wonder why that is Rob. You think it's just due to racism, amirite? Have the balls to admit it.

Admit it? I don't think anyone is really trying to hide it.

Surtur doesn't understand stuff like my mocking comment.

Originally posted by Robtard
I think it's great that people are demanding an investigation and answers when a cop shoots and kills someone; that's a sensible attitude imho.

What's funny here, the type of people who normally go some version of: "you weren't there, so you can't judge. The cops have a hard and stressful job; we need to trust their judgment!" whenever a cop shoots an unarmed black man are the most tenacious and demanding of answers here. I wonder why that is.

I tend to ask questions when the motives are unclear. Some of the unarmed black men shootings have other circumstances. Resisting arrest, assaulting the officer, shooting prior to police arrival, etc. Those are situations where, yes, you can be shot. Don't do that. Now in this circumstance, or ones like it regardless of race, there isn't a lot to go on and I would like an explanation of what the thought process was.

That would be the "sensible" I was referring too

Scathing report and truth about the one sided outrage from the left on police shootings

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/us/minneapolis-shooting-upended-outrage-trnd/index.html

This is another of those situations where reading the article and not just the headline is important.

Originally posted by Sable
Scathing report and truth about the one sided outrage from the left on police shootings

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/19/us/minneapolis-shooting-upended-outrage-trnd/index.html

From the article

(CNN)There's a predictable pattern to the aftermath of too many deadly police shootings: Neighbors and anti-police brutality groups take to the streets. Groups supporting the officers stand up for them. Social media lights up over whether the victim "did something" to provoke the officer.

But none of that holds true in the case of Justine Ruszczyk,_a white Australian bride-to-be_who was killed by Mohamed Noor, a Somali-American black police officer in Minneapolis.

And that, say experts, speaks volumes about the state of America today.

Originally posted by Sable
From the article

(CNN)There's a predictable pattern to the aftermath of too many deadly police shootings: Neighbors and anti-police brutality groups take to the streets. Groups supporting the officers stand up for them. Social media lights up over whether the victim "did something" to provoke the officer.

[B]But none of that holds true in the case of Justine Ruszczyk,_a white Australian bride-to-be_who was killed by Mohamed Noor, a Somali-American black police officer in Minneapolis.

And that, say experts, speaks volumes about the state of America today. [/B]

You should have kept reading, sporto:

'Love theorizes a different group of people may take the lead in rallying for the victim in this case: "people who may not have emphathized with the victims (in police shootings in the past) because the victims have been mostly black."
Love compares it to media coverage of murders during the civil rights era. Killings of black people in the South during that period often received scant national attention. But if the violence took the life of a white person -- such as the "Mississippi Burning" case -- more people across America paid attention.' -snip

Which funny enough, is what I basically commented on this morning 👆

I would say that police killings of African Americans is getting plenty of attention and outrage.

Now, yes. But that isn't the sole point. You have to take the article as a whole to get what he's saying , not peacemealed.

Funfact: It's not a "Scathing report and truth about the one sided outrage from the left on police shootings"

Originally posted by Robtard
You should have kept reading, sporto:

[b]'Love theorizes a different group of people may take the lead in rallying for the victim in this case: "people who may not have emphathized with the victims (in police shootings in the past) because the victims have been mostly black."
Love compares it to media coverage of murders during the civil rights era. Killings of black people in the South during that period often received scant national attention. But if the violence took the life of a white person -- such as the "Mississippi Burning" case -- more people across America paid attention.' -snip

Which funny enough, is what I basically commented on this morning 👆 [/B]

Nothing you quoted refutes what I said, pal.

Originally posted by Robtard
Now, yes. But that isn't the sole point. You have to take the article as a whole to get what he's saying , not peacemealed.

Funfact: It's not a "Scathing report and truth about the one sided outrage from the left on police shootings"

Fair enough.

Originally posted by Sable
Nothing you quoted refutes what I said, pal.

LoLz, new account; same old tactics.

1) It would be nice if some of you could grow up enough to speak about the article rather than making it about yourselves and getting your jollies off by insulting each other.

2) The issue here is the exact same as it has been in all the other cases: police officers are not trained to de-escalate situations or to seek out non-violent means of handling incidents first and foremost. The partner clearly pulled his gun almost immediately upon hearing a noise nearby, and opened fire on the victim before ever identifying himself as a police officer or assessing the situation.

3) It would have been grand if from the start movements against this had focused entirely on police retraining in general rather than focusing on the issue of race. It doesn't matter if you're dealing with the most ass backwards, hates his own clothing because it's the wrong color racist in the world if the training is designed to use violence only as a last resort. The training is extensive, and when trained properly people follow that training even during stressful situations.

4) People should not be surprised that the reaction changes depending on who the victim is. Our brains literally react differently when we relate to a victim and fear is the emotion we feel rather than simple unhappiness at the injustice of a situation. People are only so far from the baser instincts that underlie our calmer day-to-day selves. Seeing a victim that looks like you or someone close to you will almost always elicit a more visceral reaction. Rather than trying to shame or make a spectacle out of that fact, it would be nice if the media would try to help people understand one another. Sadly, it's all about sensationalism.

He still won't speak to investigators, what does he have to hide, why shoot someone from out your partners window, on the other side of the car, when his partner is in the line of fire.

Originally posted by Sable
He still won't speak to investigators, what does he have to hide, why shoot someone from out your partners window, on the other side of the car, when his partner is in the line of fire.

He may have a lawyer telling him to keep his mouth shut. Actually, that is highly likely.