Mary Marvel vs.......

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
This Aussie racist.

Originally posted by leonidas
1) Wonderman--no
2) Captain Marvel (Carol can't go Binary)--maybe. i wanna say split
3) Thing--yes
4) Namor--no
5) Colossus--yes
6) Human Torch--yes
7) Rulk--no

she's a solid high meta imo, with very good speed and some good durability showings. like all the marvel family, she could be so much more. /shrug

So if she's not beating Simon, she's not beating Ben. Colossus is in Simon and Ben's class. So if she's not beating them, she's not beating him.

The only person she has a slight chance here against, IMHO, is Carol non Binary. Torch would kill her.

Simon is stronger than Ben. Ben was struggling to lift the dumbbells Simon practice with who later lifted the dumbbell with one hand.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/462788-wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

If Wonder Man can defeat her she truly must be nowhere near the power levels of Captain Marvel.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Simon is stronger than Ben. Ben was struggling to lift the dumbbells Simon practice with who later lifted the dumbbell with one hand.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/2/24487/462788-wondythingstrength1cr.jpg

This isn't the first time they fought. The other time they fought it was the same thing. Ben holding back in fear of hurting Simon and Ben was still getting the better of Simon.

I don't understand the Mary hate here. Is this Mary with CM sharing power with her? Or does she have the entire power of Shazam to herself?

If the later then she stomps every one of them.
If the former then she can still beat most because of the speed advantage.

Its called Sexism B1....

Originally posted by zopzop
Yes, I'm aware of that scan. Ben was tooling Simon so bad that Xemu had to step in and help. And they were STILL losing. All the while Ben was holding back and didn't want to hurt Simon.

This isn't the first time they fought. The other time they fought it was the same thing. Ben holding back in fear of hurting Simon and Ben was still getting the better of Simon.

Thing is a consistent 100 tonner. It's been well documented in comics, on multiple occasions, his approximate lifting max.

So if he beats anyone who is considered high class 100 then it's a low showing for them. Not a high showing for Ben.

Simon threw a tank at professor Hulk and it broke into pieces. This is at least a 400 ton feat. Simon has feats of lifting things over 100 tons which validates his strength. There is no way Thing is supposed to compete with him. I would say Simon is in the 300-500 ton range.
Namor is in the 150-300 ton range.
Thing is in the 100-200 ton range.
Colossus is in the 100-200 ton range

Originally posted by zopzop
LOL!

Some interesting answers there. Leo, quick question, why do you have Mary losing to Simon but beating Ben? Ben and Simon tussled twice and both times Ben won or at least had the upper hand. Yes Simon was mindcontrolled in one of them but Simon had active help from Xemu and Ben was holding back not wanting to hurt Simon.

So if she's not beating Simon, she's not beating Ben. Colossus is in Simon and Ben's class. So if she's not beating them, she's not beating him.

The only person she has a slight chance here against, IMHO, is Carol non Binary. Torch would kill her.

i do think simon is stronger than ben, for sure in his energy form. not WAY stronger, but stronger. and he can fly. ben is just too limited. and a majority can still be close...

i put pete below both simon and ben, but again, it's close. flight and speed are able to better be handled by simon. but like i said, no one is sweeping and all the fights would be pretty close and brutal by the end. you listed a bunch of guys who are all really close in power.