Sorry, just woke up, so I can't properly read.
It's Revan Vs Grievous, not Mace. In which case Revan wins.
And Mace did not stalemate Grievous. Grievous who doesn't make much use of his agility quickly faltered, and then nearly got a sword through his guts. A last-instant move propelled by the general's cybersnapses, which could have easily been an automatic move of the cybernetics and could have probably killed another opponent without cybernetics, sent the general twisting into Mace. Mace wasn't expecting it, yet still dodged. That's a Mace saber victory to me.
Then, of course, Mace just swatted Grievous away like a fly with the Force. As he did in Obssession and CW microseries.
And Mace did not stalemate Grievous. Grievous who doesn't make much use of his agility quickly faltered, and then nearly got a sword through his guts. A last-instant move propelled by the general's cybersnapses, which could have easily been an automatic move of the cybernetics and could have probably killed another opponent without cybernetics, sent the general twisting into Mace. Mace wasn't expecting it, yet still dodged.
Is this the part you're referring to?
"The result wasn't Vaapad, but it was close enough, and Mace wasn't interested in prolonging the contest any longer than necessary. Crouching low, he angled the blade downward and slashed, guiding it through the roof of the car, perpendicular to Grievous's stalwart advance. Mace saw by the surprised look in the cyborg's reptilian eyes that, for all his strength, dexterity, and resolve, the living part of him wasn't always in perfect sync with his alloy servos. Clearly, Grievous - - onetime courageous commander of sentient troops - - realized what Mace had done and wanted to sidestep, where General Grievous - - current commander of droids and other war machines - - wanted nothing more than to impale Mace with lunging thrusts of the paired blades. Slipping into the gap made by Mace's saber, Grievous's left talon lost magnetic purchase on the roof, and the general faltered. Mace came out of his crouch prepared to drive his sword into Grievous's guts, but some last-instant firing of the general's cybersynapses compelled the cyborg's torso through a swift half twist that would have sent Mace's head hurtling into the canyon had the maneuver prevailed. Instead Mace leapt backward, out of the range of the slicing blades, and Force-pushed outward, just at the instant of Grievous's single misstep. Off the side of the car the general went, twisting and turning as he fell, Mace trying to track the general's contorted plunge, but unsuccessfully. Had he fallen into the canyon? Had he managed to dig his duranium claws into the side of the car or grab hold of the mag-lev rail itself?" - Labyrinth of Evil.
If it is. Let's dissect it a bit and see how the facts line up with your interpretation.
"Mace wasn't interested in prolonging the contest any longer than necessary. Crouching low, he angled the blade downward and slashed, guiding it through the roof of the car, perpendicular to Grievous's stalwart advance."
Mace, worried about giving Grievous another tool to add to his arsenal ( a replicated version of Vaapad ) seeks to end the contest before Grievous becomes an even bigger threat. To do this, he cuts a hole in the part of the train in front of Grievous who is driving Mace back with his offensive. Mace is only able to pull off his maneuver in the first place because he is giving ground against Grievous's advance.
You go on to note that Grievous faltered, indicating that this is because he doesn't make much use of his agility. This is patently false as the text itself notes he falters due to conflict between his living and cybernetic brain.
"Mace saw by the surprised look in the cyborg's reptilian eyes that, for all his strength, dexterity, and resolve, the living part of him wasn't always in perfect sync with his alloy servos. Clearly, Grievous - - onetime courageous commander of sentient troops - - realized what Mace had done and wanted to sidestep, where General Grievous - - current commander of droids and other war machines - - wanted nothing more than to impale Mace with lunging thrusts of the paired blades."
You then go on to note that the general's cybernetics saved him ( not acknowledging that they put him in that position in the first place ) despite that being irrelevant to the General's capabilities. He has them. They're always going to function like that. What's the point of making the distinction between Grievous and someone without Grievous's cybernetics when Grievous is the character being used in the fight?
How you can claim that Mace taking advantage of the conflict between Grievous's cybernetic and living mind to BFR him with the Force is a saber victory is something I'm at an utter loss trying to understand.
Furthermore, since we're not taking into account use of the Force I fail to see how your last point is in any way relevant especially when Mace had the distance between them in both instances to carry out the feat.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Grievous > Mace. Mace > Revan. Pretty simple.
Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Grievous was notably more hindered then Mace during their fight in LoE yet he stalemated him.
Originally posted by SunRazer
Lol
grevious's brain had apparently even analyzed even Mace's unconventionally lethal Vapaad and had been able to respond in kind after a single exchange
Note their fight ended immediately after Grevious roughly replicated his form(More on that later).
2. Mace not wanting to prolong the engagement was because he needed to find Palpatine, and the train they were fighting on was about to get derailed. Not because of Grevious being too good for him.
3. Afterwards, Grevious notes he didn't enjoy the "short fight" and realized Dooku's assessment was right. What was Dooku's assessment?:
"Do I need to demonstrate what responses you can expect from Cin Drallig or Obi-Wan Kenobi? From Mace Windu or, stars help you, Yoda?"
4. Grevious was only able to roughly replicate mace's form indicating it was too advanced for Grevious to replicate and use accurately.
Nowhere is there any indication grevious would have won and there are multiple indications mace had the upperhand.
The fight was only a single lightsaber exchange and trying to draw conclusions from it like mace=grevious is asinine.
1. The "single exchange" lasted as long as it took for Fisto and his magnaguards opponents to traverse the length of the maglev.
"To the rear of the car, where Grievous's pair of MagnaGuards had made the mistake of pitting themselves against Kit Fisto, the Nautolan's blade was a cyclone of blazing blue light. Resistant to the energy outpourings of a lightsaber, the phrik alloy staffs were potent weapons, but like any weapon they needed to find their target, and Kit simply wasn't allowing that." - Labyrinth of Evil.
Fisto, Grievous, Mace and the magnaguards all initially engaged at the same starting point. The fight lasted long enough to take Fisto and his magnaguard opponents across the length of the maglev car. Unless they all raced to the other end and started their duel their ( something I highly doubt ) it had been going on for some time.
I'm aware of this as I specifically noted this in my last post.
2. Given how the text emphasizes Grievous's replication of Mace's form before noting Mace's lack of willingness to prolong the fight, I think it's fair to say that it was a mix of factors. Regardless, at the time Mace ended the fight, he was being driven back in a retreat.
3. Nice attempt at ignoring context. Right after it notes that Grievous didn't enjoy the fight the text states this.
"His literal "misstep" had shamed him, and he was grateful that the two MagnaGuards that had fought at his side had not survived to bear witness to it."
The reason he didn't enjoy the fight was because he had "shamed" himself. Something that would definitely take the joy out of a fight for the honorable warrior that Grievous had been in his past life.
And what does that quote have to do with anything? It notes that if Grievous allowed his moves to be too mechanical, he'd be taken advantage of by those fighters. A prediction that ended up being right, but for the wrong reasons. Grievous didn't "allow" his moves to become too mechanical. His cybernetic mind actively interfered, and then, moments later, aided him. There are of course advantages and disadvantage to that but as we saw in his fight with Mace they balanced out.
4. You must be retarded. Grievous literally had seconds to view the form in action before he was able to create a rough copy. That has nothing to do with his skill level ( since a normal brain couldn't even remember all those moves in the middle of a fight let alone understand and know how to use them effectively ) and everything to do with his cybernetic brain's ability to copy advanced move sets.
The fact that he was driving Mace back whilst more hindered then Windu suggests that tbh. Especially when even taking advantage of one of Grievous's inherent weaknesses ( again, while Grievous was hindered to a greater degree ) Mace was unable to gain any leverage.
"Just as the Force was keeping Mace from being blown from the mag-lev's roof, magnetism of some sort was keeping the general fastened in place. For the cyborg, though, the coherence hindered as much as it helped, whereas Mace never remained in one place for very long. Again and again the three blades joined, in snarling attacks and parries." - Labyrinth of Evil.
Note as well, Grievous wasn't even using all 4 blades in his fight which wouldn't limited his offensive and defensive capabilities by half. I overestimated Mace. Grievous is vastly superior.
I didn't post the full quote for some reason:
"Finesse. Artfulness. Economy. Otherwise, my friend, I fear that you will end up beyond the repair of even the Geonosians. Do you take my meaning?"
Source: Labyrinth of Evil"
And you're ignoring that Grevious "understood" what dooku was saying after his fight vs mace.