Originally posted by h1a8
Kurse is slower, not faster. Kurse is about as strong or a little stronger at best. Hulk can perform every feat he did. Kurse may have better fighting skill but it's not all that great.
Kurse wins in a close fight.
Thor was beating Hulk to the punch and ducking around Hulk's hits. Something he could not do with Kurse. This implies that Kurse is faster no?
Thor was also able to block Hulk's punch. Not so with Kurse.
Hulk was nerfed down a bit in that fight with Thor in the shield helicarrier compared to his fight against the Hulkbuster armor. If he wasn't, they would've brought that thing down to the ground pretty quickly. So maybe Thor was also nerfed down a bit too. Thor has amazing durability and damage soak, compared to his strength output levels without the hammer. He is used as a part strong man, part energy attacker, part hammer thumper attacker. He just doesn't seem to have the strength and punching out put on the offensive end to keep up with a Hulk or Kurse. But he seems to be able to take beatings from them pretty well. I'm not sure if I have a real good point to this post, but concerning the speed, Hulk fights very fast when he gets mad. You can see that in the Hulkbuster fight. Don't believe Kurse has a speed advantage. He still wins unless we see Hulk get more uber like he was as Bana Hulk. When he is with the avengers, he's definitely a powerhouse, but they keep him from growing too much out of still being a team member who needs the other ones at times.
Originally posted by K-Dog
Hulk was nerfed down a bit in that fight with Thor in the shield helicarrier compared to his fight against the Hulkbuster armor. If he wasn't, they would've brought that thing down to the ground pretty quickly. So maybe Thor was also nerfed down a bit too. Thor has amazing durability and damage soak, compared to his strength output levels without the hammer. He is used as a part strong man, part energy attacker, part hammer thumper attacker. He just doesn't seem to have the strength and punching out put on the offensive end to keep up with a Hulk or Kurse. But he seems to be able to take beatings from them pretty well. I'm not sure if I have a real good point to this post, but concerning the speed, Hulk fights very fast when he gets mad. You can see that in the Hulkbuster fight. Don't believe Kurse has a speed advantage. He still wins unless we see Hulk get more uber like he was as Bana Hulk. When he is with the avengers, he's definitely a powerhouse, but they keep him from growing too much out of still being a team member who needs the other ones at times.
Hulk is nerfed in the MCU but not quite as nerfed as Thor is.
Originally posted by h1a8Thor was dominating Hulk when they fought, and thats without his full power arsenal. Hulk can not beat Thor (unless Thor has no Hammer, in which case, maybe).
Hulk can beat down Thor too, especially without his hammer. Kurse hit Thor a billion times and Thor wasn't close to being koed. Kurse durability is greater though.
Thor with hammer beats Hulk, Hulk beats hammerless Thor, Thor with hammer and only throws or strikes beats Hulk. Kurse beats hammerless Thor easily. Kurse apparently beats Thor with hammer, although the hammer didn't seem to want to return to Thor or he was being beaten too silly to will it back or something. Hulk vs Hulkbuster--Hulk was very fast and knocking the armor around at very high speed while giving and taking major environmental damage to the point I think he could give curse a good fight but still lose unless amped 25% more.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Maybe Thor was nerfed a bit? Thor didn't use any of his more powerful abilities, plus he tried to talk Hulk down and then tried to subdue him, rather than hurt him.
I just mean that it was a close battle until the hammer was brought in, and if it were a true fight with an enraged Hulk, the power output on both sides (or the Hulk at least) would have destroyed the helicarrier. I'm referencing the Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight, for instance. For the movie, they had to make it more an indoor fight than a outdoor fight, so they brought both characters down a bit. For a specific example, Hilk was mad and straining to lift Mjolnir, and it took him a few seconds to even sink his feet into the floor. Yet at other times like against Hulkbuster, a punch or push pushes a huge adversary through tons of metal beams and concrete. I think Hulk and Thor were brought down a bit. IMO Hulk had the edge till the hammer came in.
Originally posted by K-Dog
I just mean that it was a close battle until the hammer was brought in, and if it were a true fight with an enraged Hulk, the power output on both sides (or the Hulk at least) would have destroyed the helicarrier. I'm referencing the Hulk vs Hulkbuster fight, for instance. For the movie, they had to make it more an indoor fight than a outdoor fight, so they brought both characters down a bit. For a specific example, Hilk was mad and straining to lift Mjolnir, and it took him a few seconds to even sink his feet into the floor. Yet at other times like against Hulkbuster, a punch or push pushes a huge adversary through tons of metal beams and concrete. I think Hulk and Thor were brought down a bit. IMO Hulk had the edge till the hammer came in.
Thor was nerfed in the context of his full power set, but he was trying to take Hulk out once Mjolnir was called for.