Kurse vs Hulkbuster

Started by Sable3 pages
Originally posted by Darth Thor
See no reason to assume Hulk could achieve Kurse's fear though. And it's not the only evidence of Kurse being stronger. Thor fought much better against Hulk in fisticuffs than he could against Kurse.

Redirecting the hammer isnt some uber feat especially since we know it is going to be broken and Cap making it budge. Kurse being smaller and more compact makes his hits quicker and harder to block then Hulks, doesnt mean Kurse is stronger or that Kurse can put Hulk down.

Originally posted by Sable
Redirecting the hammer isnt some uber feat especially since we know it is going to be broken and Cap making it budge. Kurse being smaller and more compact makes his hits quicker and harder to block then Hulks, doesnt mean Kurse is stronger or that Kurse can put Hulk down.

Talk when Hulk does that to Mjolnir.

Or when Hulk gives Thor the beating Kurse did.

So because he never tried means he can't? And because Kurse did, automatically means he's stronger then Hulk. Man talk about a no limits fallacy.

Originally posted by Psychotron
Kurse is stronger, but his crappy durability might get him killed in this fight. I'm sure Tony's weapons are > random asgardian swords.

Tony's weapons didn't even give Thor a rash when fired at point blank range. Loki's dagger had no problems hurting Thor.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Tony's weapons didn't even give Thor a rash when fired at point blank range. Loki's dagger had no problems hurting Thor.

To be fair, they hide that information in the movies. So you can understand why he didn't know.

Originally posted by Sable
So because he never tried means he can't? And because Kurse did, automatically means he's stronger then Hulk. Man talk about a no limits fallacy.

No a No Limits Fallacy would be to assume Hulk can do that when he's fought Thor and couldn't stop or redirect Mjolnir even once.

Oh and I like how you keep ignoring Hulk also unable to give Thor the spanned by that Kurse did.

Didnt have the time and we both know Hulk waant trying fo kill him, Kurse was. Couldnt isnt the same as never trying or doing.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Tony's weapons didn't even give Thor a rash when fired at point blank range. Loki's dagger had no problems hurting Thor.

Tony only hit him with some energy attacks, and I doubt he was going all out either.

Besides that was Mark III or whatever. This is Hulkbuster.

And swatting the hammer away is way overrated. A hammer throw from Thor didn't even scratch Iron Man' armor. An older armor than the one that can't stand in H2H against Captain Murrica.

Originally posted by Sable
If they were ineffective, how did it kill the first Kurse?

I guess not all Kurse's are created the same.

Originally posted by Psychotron
I meant that Thor wouldn't get damaged by some random Asgardian's blade.

I dont believe that

Originally posted by Sable
Didnt have the time and we both know Hulk waant trying fo kill him, Kurse was. Couldnt isnt the same as never trying or doing.

Why do you say this? Hulk was in a rage and was not holding back.

Originally posted by Sable
Didnt have the time and we both know Hulk waant trying fo kill him, Kurse was. Couldnt isnt the same as never trying or doing.

Didn't have time for what? You're not making any sense.

Fact is Kurse's performance against Thor was far far better than a Raging Hulk's performance against Thor. And both in melee combat.

That's fact. What you're coming out with is speculation.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
See no reason to assume Hulk could achieve Kurse's fear though. And it's not the only evidence of Kurse being stronger. Thor fought much better against Hulk in fisticuffs than he could against Kurse.

Besides him being the strongest there is?

Thor looked better against Hulk because he had far more skill not because Hulk is physically weaker than Kurse. In Dark World, Kurse was actually able to counter Thors offence (deflecting Mjolnir, blocking/evading Thors punches etc) rather than trying to power through it like Hulk was. Hulks one punch still rocked Thor like a punch from Kurse did, and Thors punches were able to affect Kurse about as much as they were able to effect Hulk in their brief exchange ie not much.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Besides him being the strongest there is?

Thor looked better against Hulk because he had far more skill not because Hulk is physically weaker than Kurse. In Dark World, Kurse was actually able to counter Thors offence (deflecting Mjolnir, blocking/evading Thors punches etc) rather than trying to power through it like Hulk was. Hulks one punch still rocked Thor like a punch from Kurse did, and Thors punches were able to affect Kurse about as much as they were able to effect Hulk in their brief exchange ie not much.

Thor's punch was able to turn Hulk around 360. Thor punched Kurse multiple times and Kurse didn't even budge.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor's punch was able to turn Hulk around 360. Thor punched Kurse multiple times and Kurse didn't even budge.

It was? I remember Thor turning his head/body but Hulk spinning into the next attack akin to a kick boxer/muay thai fighter. Kurse had Thor in a choke hold and Thors punch caused him to let go, he clearly felt the punches so he dodged/blocked the punches that followed. Neither guy was completely no selling them but neither were really hurt by them either.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Besides him being the strongest there is?

Well unless you think Hulk is stronger than Odin and Thanos, that statement (not said in the movies IIRC) literally means nothing.

Originally posted by The Sorrow

Thor looked better against Hulk because he had far more skill not because Hulk is physically weaker than Kurse. In Dark World, Kurse was actually able to counter Thors offence (deflecting Mjolnir, blocking/evading Thors punches etc) rather than trying to power through it like Hulk was. Hulks one punch still rocked Thor like a punch from Kurse did, and Thors punches were able to affect Kurse about as much as they were able to effect Hulk in their brief exchange ie not much.

I don't see any proof here that Hulk could punch away Mjolnir.

His fight against Thor suggests otherwise. You can argue all day that Hulk didn't approach Mjolnir the right way, but fact is Hulk doesn't have that feat. Whilst Kurse does.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
Besides him being the strongest there is?

Thor looked better against Hulk because he had far more skill not because Hulk is physically weaker than Kurse. In Dark World, Kurse was actually able to counter Thors offence (deflecting Mjolnir, blocking/evading Thors punches etc) rather than trying to power through it like Hulk was. Hulks one punch still rocked Thor like a punch from Kurse did, and Thors punches were able to affect Kurse about as much as they were able to effect Hulk in their brief exchange ie not much.

Thor literally caught Hulk's punch. He could do no such thing to Kurse.

Originally posted by The Sorrow
It was? I remember Thor turning his head/body but Hulk spinning into the next attack akin to a kick boxer/muay thai fighter. Kurse had Thor in a choke hold and Thors punch caused him to let go, he clearly felt the punches so he dodged/blocked the punches that followed. Neither guy was completely no selling them but neither were really hurt by them either.

Hulk is not some kind of trained martial artist. Yes, he did flow into a backfist but that's not due to him specifically allowing Thor to spin him around to utilize a backfist. Thor's punch was strong enough to spin Hulk 360 and Hulk just tried to make the best out of it.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well unless you think Hulk is stronger than Odin and Thanos, that statement (not said in the movies IIRC) literally means nothing.

I'm

I don't see any proof here that Hulk could punch away Mjolnir.

His fight against Thor suggests otherwise. You can argue all day that Hulk didn't approach Mjolnir the right way, but fact is Hulk doesn't have that feat. Whilst Kurse does.


By now even the general public know Hulk is one of the strongest characters (if not the strongest) in Marvel, it's hardly breaking new ground it literally is his thing. In the MCU he's the guy who runs though fortified bunkers like paper, wrestles giant space worms and now seemingly tackles Surtur with his bare hands. Physically hes the most impressive so far that's for sure. How strong is Thanos? How strong is Odin?

I don't need to argue anything the facts are there, Hulk didnt attempt to knock Mjolnir away, period. Kurse has the feat and you believe Hulk can't achieve it but that doesn't mean he can't. Besides that question mark nothing Kurse did is beyond Hulk and that feat alone doesn't mean he's stronger.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Thor literally caught Hulk's punch. He could do no such thing to Kurse.

Complete apples to oranges comparison.