Originally posted by |King Joker|
He Force pushed her. Describing what Vader did as a "semi-ragdoll" is just a transparent attempt to make what Vader did more profound than it actually was in order to lowball Ahsoka. I might as well claim Ahsoka semi-ragdolled Vader, lmao. Nice try, TenebrousWay.
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
To be honest, I thought Vader had lifted her off her feet and then threw her away, but looking again, it seems he just blasted her off and the camera angle gave the impression he lifted her first.
she was off balance and had her defenses down.
Originally posted by TenebrousWay
How I'm ignoring it if I'm basically agreeing with you (and Joker)? 😮
Now, please elaborate on what Revan's done that justifies him doing more with tk than a dude who's barrier can withstand ship dissolving explosions
Originally posted by |King Joker|
Not really, it looks like she's going in the direction his hand was pointed.
Anyway, so that people know what I'm referring to when I say she was off balance:
https://youtu.be/Nr7ufR7utEo?t=2m55s
She's in absolutely no position to defend herself here.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66This tbh. There's no reality in which Ahsoka could ever hope to defeat Revan in his prime. This is ignoring all your retarded stips and using them purely as seen in the mythos.
Revan, and I'd wager he could do it w/o arms.
Revan tears her limb from limb, casually, he doesn't even need to try.
Originally posted by thesithmaster
She was off balance. Another unsubstantiated fan-fiction. If you have no proof to what you are saying, then stop it. Vader blasted Ahsoka away with casual ease because he's her considerable superior. Period.
Only for the blind.
During that fight, Vader undoubtedly had the upper hand strength/dueling wise, as he pressed Ahsoka back.
Force wise they seemed to be pretty even, they both took advantage of the other being out of position.
Could of been due to the position, but Vader managed force pushed her off ground forcing her to flip, if that wasn't off the edge she would of landed on her back. While Ahsoka given a perfect chance to force push Vader, only managed to get him to scrap across the ground. Vader wasn't overwhelmingly Dominant in that fight, with the force, though i'd still give him the slight edge.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
During that fight, Vader undoubtedly had the upper hand strength/dueling wise, as he pressed Ahsoka back.
Originally posted by Haschwalth
Force wise they seemed to be pretty even, they both took advantage of the other being out of position.Could of been due to the position, but Vader managed force pushed her off ground forcing her to flip, if that wasn't off the edge she would of landed on her back. While Ahsoka given a perfect chance to force push Vader, only managed to get him to scrap across the ground. Vader wasn't overwhelmingly Dominant in that fight, with the force, though i'd still give him the slight edge. [/B]
@Rockydonovang
Eh i wasn't directing it at you Kbro, it was my opinion of what took place.
Ahsoka did have the upperhand at the start a bit of that would of been attributed to her having time to gain momentum(power) while vader stood there.Charging your opponent gives you a power boost(P=V*M)(Eg the Returned Fight with Malgus and Sateles master) once she lost that momentum, she was pushed back, and was shown to being pushed back the whole time. I don't believe she has a speed advantage, or one big enough to matter.(unless it was in surprise).
I agree that they are close to even. Though Vader wasn't in the prime position when Ashoka pushed him back. Sure Ahsoka wasn't either(I'm agreeing she was out of position) But Vader did have the slight edge. as it could of screwed her over worse if it were not for the cliff edge.
I 1. Fair enough
2. Er, that doesn't apply when you stop a said movement. Her running start doesn't apply to say her kicking Vader with her second hit, or dancing around Vader(right before her push).
3. She wasn't pushed back for the entire time. By the time their fight cuts to kanan finding ezra, they're right at the temple entrance, 50 seconds later, Ahsoka's stonewalling Vader at the temple's edge. She was barely driven back at that point and they were prolly fighting as near equals for the 50 seconds we don't see.
4. While both weren't in a great position, Vader wa sstill standing straight and had his swing of the saber. I'd say Ahsoka, who was off balance and had her arms flaling backwards was in a worse position.
5. I concur that Vader's tk was more significant, but frankly I'm not seeing why we should see either tk as a legitimate breach of the other's barrier. It seems to me that with ach of their defenses enough, neither would be able to tk the other to any significant degree.
6. We're in agreement more or less, a couple of nitpicks aside