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The Fantastic Four -Vs- The X-Men

Who wins?
No Prep..
No B.F.R...

The FF

Reed
Thing
Sue
Torch

Vs

X-Men

Beast
Colossus
Storm
Iceman

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

FF win. X-Men have no counter to Sue.

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Can Iceman do things through her FF?

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Can Iceman do things through her FF?

No clue, but I tend to doubt it. Regarding the rest of the match ups :
Reed > Beast
Thing >= Colossus
Iceman > HT
Sue > Storm (and the rest of the X-men team)

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

But if Iceman is > HT, can't see what the others can do to him.

Forcefields in his lungs? Lol. Bubble in brain? Suffocation? Even trapping him in a bubble and BFRing him shouldn't work, based on his consciousness.

Glorificus Senior Member

All depends on Iceman and Sue.

Without BFR, I don't know if they have any permanent answer to Iceman.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But if Iceman is > HT, can't see what the others can do to him.
Forcefields in his lungs? Lol. Bubble in brain? Suffocation? Even trapping him in a bubble and BFRing him shouldn't work, based on his consciousness.

Iceman is very overrated. I mean he was owned by an oven because the humidity level wasn't high enough to sustain his powers. She can bubble him and fling him into space. He's now dead. He's not escaping her force fields.

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Bfr is off though.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

depends entirely if we go with omega bobby. if we do, he'd slaughter the ff solo. if it's the usual bobby, x-men lose. he's their only real chance here, though storm can do some damage for sure. sue is tough to counter for most characters though.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Bfr is off though.

Ok, without BFR, Sue isn't killing Bobby but she can just bubble him and he's now stuck. No one on Team X has the power to burst through Sue's FFs.

Originally posted by leonidas
depends entirely if we go with omega bobby. if we do, he'd slaughter the ff solo. if it's the usual bobby, x-men lose. he's their only real chance here, though storm can do some damage for sure. sue is tough to counter for most characters though.

What can even Omega Bobby do to Sue though? I'm not being confrontational, I'm genuinely curious.

riv6672 Senior Member

Going by the fact that iceman us getting more powerful by the post, just to give the x men a shot here, i'm going with the FF fir a clear majority.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by riv6672
Going by the fact that iceman us getting more powerful by the post, just to give the x men a shot here, i'm going with the FF fir a clear majority.

That's quite selective logic 👆

riv6672 Senior Member

Thank you. 🙂

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by zopzop
Ok, without BFR, Sue isn't killing Bobby but she can just bubble him and he's now stuck. No one on Team X has the power to burst through Sue's FFs.
What can even Omega Bobby do to Sue though? I'm not being confrontational, I'm genuinely curious.

there is still moisture in the air, and in sue herself, even if her shields are up. crystal beat her by taking advantage of that:

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108995/2418609-1455037_untitledp1_super.jpg

and bobby's control of moisture in his omega depictions>>crystal's control over the elements imo.

http://i.imgur.com/MN8BZx9.png

some of his feats when he is going all out with his powers are pretty crazy. his consciousness is spread out....everywhere, and he has no physical body for her to attack, no brain to bubble. he just shifts his consciousness to a different location and reforms his body. he can grow supermassive and shatter a bubble he's placed in, create clones of himself he can control from inside a bubble...he's really, really powerful when his powers are explored to their fullest. we saw some of it during the apocalypse shard arc, where he was easily destroying thor.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Originally posted by riv6672
Thank you. 🙂

Oh I must not have said it right then.

riv6672 Senior Member

Lately thats been a trend for you.

Aaanyhow, FF for a clear majority. Moving on. Feel free to teply to thin air now.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Cool, will do.

Seems strange you give it to FF as 'Iceman was getting more and more powerful', yet Sue was throwing her opponents into space (which we all know is... definitely within her character) and it was ignored.

Yet in other threads, you seem content to call this kind of bloodlusted ooc tactics out.

Selective.

zopzop Lord of the Great Abyss

Originally posted by leonidas
there is still moisture in the air, and in sue herself, even if her shields are up. crystal beat her by taking advantage of that:
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/108995/2418609-1455037_untitledp1_super.jpg

This never happened. It was a dream sequence. That's what I was told at least.

StyleTime Senior Member

Originally posted by zopzop
Iceman is very overrated. I mean he was owned by an oven because the humidity level wasn't high enough to sustain his powers.

If it's the time I think you're thinking of, that was AoA Bobby.

leonidas MWHAHAHAHA!

Originally posted by zopzop
This never happened. It was a dream sequence. That's what I was told at least.

well i'll be damned... that scene is from issue 332 and it turns out it IS a dream. i have the issue, even read it once upon a time, and completely forgot that was a dream sequence that lasted the entire book, lol i used that scan to great effect once in a tournament and had no idea it was a dream.

i stand corrected. 👆

doesn't change my opinion though--i still think bobby, taken at his best, could definitely affect sue even through her shields. and putting him in a bubble, or bubbling his brain wouldn't do anything at all to him.

i did learn something new though. lol