Hellboy vs. MCU gauntlet
Hellboy takes on MCU heroes one on one. He gets fully healed after every fight. Fights are pure h2h unless otherwise indicated. Fight ends when one combatant is no longer able to continue or taps out. Standard, open arena setting. How far does he go?
1. Daredevil
2. Iron Fist
3. Winter Soldier
4. Luke Cage
5. Captain America w/ shield
6. Ironman
7. Tobey Spiderman
8. Thor
10. Hulk
Originally posted by KingD19Didn't he punch a van that was about to ram him hard enough to make it near stop in it's tracks and go careening over him in the first movie? Cage should definitely feel his punches unless I'm remembering some god mode durability feet he had.
He's not strong enough to make it past Cage.
Meanwhile, Cage doesn't have a single strength feet to my memory that shows he could meaningfully hurt Hellboy. I think he's outclassed
Originally posted by Arachnid1
Didn't he punch a van that was about to ram him hard enough to make it near stop in it's tracks and go careening over him in the first movie? Cage should definitely feel his punches unless I'm remembering some god mode durability feet he had.Meanwhile, Cage doesn't have a single strength feet to my memory that shows he could meaningfully hurt Hellboy. I think he's outclassed
IIRC, Cage shoulder-checked an SUV head on and didn't even budge. The difference between his feat and Hellboy's is that Hellboy punched the SUV which then flipped over his head, whereas Cage stopped his SUV dead in its tracks.
Originally posted by FrothByte
IIRC, Cage shoulder-checked an SUV head on and didn't even budge. The difference between his feat and Hellboy's is that Hellboy punched the SUV which then flipped over his head, whereas Cage stopped his SUV dead in its tracks.
Also HB used the Right Fist of Doom for that, which while attached to him is not a part of his body. His regular arm doesn't hit that hard. And Cage can block the Fist.
Originally posted by FrothByteYou're right, and I read that. I don't know why it slipped my thought process.
Pure h2h only.
Originally posted by FrothByteCages strength is definitely nothing to scoff at, but I'm more talking about whether or not it's enough to make it through Hellboys durability. This is the same guy who got ragdolled into concrete walls by a giant tentacle god from hell.
IIRC, Cage shoulder-checked an SUV head on and didn't even budge. The difference between his feat and Hellboy's is that Hellboy punched the SUV which then flipped over his head, whereas Cage stopped his SUV dead in its tracks.
Originally posted by KingD19I'm not saying he cant take a few hits from Hellboy, but I give Hellboy better odds of dishing out more damage than he takes.
Also HB used the Right Fist of Doom for that, which while attached to him is not a part of his body. His regular arm doesn't hit that hard. And Cage can block the Fist.
Originally posted by Arachnid1
You're right, and I read that. I don't know why it slipped my thought processCages strength is definitely nothing to scoff at, but I'm more talking about whether or not it's enough to make it through Hellboys durability. This is the same guy who got ragdolled into concrete walls by a giant tentacle god from hell.
I'm not saying he cant take a few hits from Hellboy, but I give Hellboy better odds of dishing out more damage than he takes.
He's also got bloodied up pretty good by Mr. Wink(who is maybe Cage's equal in strength if we're being generous). Had a tough time with Kroenen. And the Sammael's. His highs are awesome, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have lows as well.
Originally posted by KingD19Yeah but Kroenen had swords that he was fast and skilled enough to block a barrage of gunfire with. Hellboys best feats seem to be against blunt trauma, so him beating that guy was kind of impressive. I do think Cage would do a better job against him since his power set is perfectly tailored for it though
He's also got bloodied up pretty good by Mr. Wink(who is maybe Cage's equal in strength if we're being generous). Had a tough time with Kroenen. And the Sammael's. His highs are awesome, but that doesn't mean he doesn't have lows as well.
Mr. Wink is mostly featless since we only really have his fight with Hellyboy to go off of, but it provided nearly equal fight. Heck, he seemed to be overpowering Hellboy the majority of the fight. Hellboy was only really doing well because he was faster and more skilled so he was able to dance around the majority of the hits. If he's stronger than Hellboy, I'd say he's likely stronger than Cage.
Same point with Sammael coming off as stronger than Hellboy. He spent the majority of the fight ragdolling Hellboy around the room, and was even overpowering him at the end. The only time Hellboy even took damage this fight was when he had an entire metal room dropped on him.
Thats still inconsistent with Hellboys highs, but it's not very low either IMO. I think most of Hellboys fights are just on another level than Cages. Just take a look at Cages fight with Diamondback or Jones. Neither fight portrays them as faster, stronger, or more skilled than the people Hellboy fought and beat.
Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
Pure h2h he stops at Thor, but that's a massive jump in competition, from Spidey to Thor. You could definitely fit a few easier opponents in there before getting to the upper echelon.
Who would you have suggested? I was trying to stay away from using more Asgardians but I couldn't think of many who are above IM and Spidey but below Thor.