Originally posted by FrothByte
Eyebeams are even worse. Loki has gotten hit by Thor's lightning, an Anti-asgardian gun, the bifrost explosion, IM's repulsors.... and every single time he got back up without injury.If you want to give him Wolverine's HF then you're going to get Wolverine's low points as well like getting knocked out because he was shot in the head.
Which means all Loki really needs is a one good shot to Bpool's head and he's KO'd.
Thor holds back against him and the other stuff is meh.
We take averages, not just low or high points.
Good thing he has super speed and teleport.
Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't have any proof that Pool never used super-speed? sure I do. here you go
Or, you know, Logan and Creed were good enough to keep up a bit. They still got tagged a bunch of times.
Originally posted by FrothByte
You don't even need to go that deep. They can't even seem to understand that when a person is fighting and has no indication that he's moving in superspeed, then that person probably doesn't have superspeed.
Nor do they understand that even if we say that for the sake of argument Pool retained Wade's super-speed, the fact that he never used it would mean that using it in this fight would be OOC and thus disallowed per forum rules.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Thor holds back against him and the other stuff is meh.We take averages, not just low or high points.
Good thing he has super speed and teleport.
Or, you know, Logan and Creed were good enough to keep up a bit. They still got tagged a bunch of times.
So your argument is that Pool was using super-speed, even though the clip I posted clearly shows that he didn't use it?
Originally posted by Psychotron
Thor holds back against him and the other stuff is meh.We take averages, not just low or high points.
Good thing he has super speed and teleport.
Or, you know, Logan and Creed were good enough to keep up a bit. They still got tagged a bunch of times.
Thor holds back seemingly as much as Loki holds back. Otherwise Loki would have stabbed Thor in more vital areas and utilized the power of Gungir more. So you really need to stop using this whole "Thor holds back" angle. Bottom line is anyone who can give Thor a hard time, enough that Thor needs to take him seriously, is way more than enough to easily dispatch Wolverine and Sabertooth.
On average, Wolverine is rocked by strong hits and can't handle one too many stabs. Check out his fights against Sabertooth in X1, Lady Deathstrike, Sabertooth in origins, Logan, even this Bpool fight. If the hit is strong enough or if he gets cut or stabbed one too many times he drops. If that's the kind of HF you want to attribute to Bpool then he won't stand a chance against a high-end Asgardian like Loki face to face. The only reason this match is difficult is because of his teleportation. But in the end that's mostly negated by the illusions.
Oh and speaking of super speed, are you saying that Wolverine and Sabertooth also have some super speed because they only seemed to be moving a tad slower than DP in that clip.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Thor holds back seemingly as much as Loki holds back. Otherwise Loki would have stabbed Thor in more vital areas and utilized the power of Gungir more. So you really need to stop using this whole "Thor holds back" angle. Bottom line is anyone who can give Thor a hard time, enough that Thor needs to take him seriously, is way more than enough to easily dispatch Wolverine and Sabertooth.On average, Wolverine is rocked by strong hits and can't handle one too many stabs. Check out his fights against Sabertooth in X1, Lady Deathstrike, Sabertooth in origins, Logan, even this Bpool fight. If the hit is strong enough or if he gets cut or stabbed one too many times he drops. If that's the kind of HF you want to attribute to Bpool then he won't stand a chance against a high-end Asgardian like Loki face to face. The only reason this match is difficult is because of his teleportation. But in the end that's mostly negated by the illusions.
Oh and speaking of super speed, are you saying that Wolverine and Sabertooth also have some super speed because they only seemed to be moving a tad slower than DP in that clip.
We're not gonna agree on this. Thor could potentially one-shot Loki if he's actually serious.
Wolverine has also taken Phoenix's attacks and nuclear fire. So that argument isn't a good one. Illusions do not negate teleportation in any way, not when Pool has a wide ranged attack that can clear the field.
I don't see why not. Wolverine and Sabretooth have super speed in the comics. Besides, they got tagged a lot despite using a terrain that made it difficult for Pool to blitz them, so they're not as fast as him.
Originally posted by Psychotron
We're not gonna agree on this. Thor could potentially one-shot Loki if he's actually serious.Wolverine has also taken Phoenix's attacks and nuclear fire. So that argument isn't a good one. Illusions do not negate teleportation in any way, not when Pool has a wide ranged attack that can clear the field.
I don't see why not. Wolverine and Sabretooth have super speed in the comics. Besides, they got tagged a lot despite using a terrain that made it difficult for Pool to blitz them, so they're not as fast as him.
And Loki can potentially one shot Thor with a knife to the head.
You already said we take the average showings, so you can't just concentrate on the Phoenix feat. Wolverine has MULTIPLE feats of struggling with high impact or multiple stabbings
Originally posted by FrothByte
And Loki can potentially one shot Thor with a knife to the head.You already said we take the average showings, so you can't just concentrate on the Phoenix feat. Wolverine has MULTIPLE feats of struggling with high impact or multiple stabbings
I could potentially one shot Stippe Miocic if I stab him from behind, too. It doesn't mean he won't kick my ass in a fight.
Yes, that's what I said.
Originally posted by Psychotron
I could potentially one shot Stippe Miocic if I stab him from behind, too. It doesn't mean he won't kick my ass in a fight.Yes, that's what I said.
Correct. And Thor can one shot Loki... if Loki doesn't do anything. But if he's ready and willing to fight then Thor can't really one shot him. You can't apply double standards.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Correct. And Thor can one shot Loki... if Loki doesn't do anything. But if he's ready and willing to fight then Thor can't really one shot him. You can't apply double standards.
If he hits Loki with one of those big-ass lightning storms or a charged hammer strike Loki is done for.
Originally posted by Psychotron
You can't stab someone in the skull like that.
Nonsense. People get stabbed in the head all the time. Loki was easily able to stab Thor through his armor without even putting a lot of strength into it. You want to make a claim that Thor can't get stabbed through the head you need to back it up with proof.