Tenebrous' Master vs Dark Empire Luke

*All Out*

Who wins?

DE luke.

Using a character that's never once appeared and only once or twice been mentioned makes for a pretty pointless thread. All I can really say is that Tenebrous' master is likely to be stronger, scaling from Bane, Zannah, Plagueis, and Sidious.

This is KMC tho, everything is pointless.

Luke wins

Luke beats Tene's master, probably Tene and Plag in 1 on 1 fights.

I'd argue DE Luke is approaching Plagueis' general level.

He should beat Teneb's master.

TM stomps

Tenebrous' Master.

Originally posted by Azronger
TM stomps

What made you lower DE Luke so much?

Luke

How is Tene's master winning this? DE Luke contends with Sidious; he wins. And frankly, it's not all that close.

DE Luke. Speaking of him, why is he considered below DE Palpatine? I've read the first comic fight and he defeated Palps in a duel fairly. The DE audiobook also says he did it under his own power. People argue Leia amplified his power because of how she was outlined during the dueling portions but even Imperial Star Destroyers get that outline. Palpatine even did a starkiller esque force lightning encased lightsaber when he proclaimed he will kill Luke in that duel, which also doesn't support he was holding back in that fight which is the other argument. The only time DE Palps showed to be stronger is when he activated his Force storm, which made him a nexus that Luke nor Leia could seemingly approach. Is there something in the sequels that prove otherwise?

Luke was massively amped when he defeated Palpatine. He got owned in their only fair fight. Given Luke Force Pushed Palpatine right into his collection of lightsabers, and Palpatine mentioned he did nothing, it's very likely Palpatine let himself be pushed.

His first fight with Palpatine where he got owned was on Byss, Palpatines Dark side nexus which powered Palpatine as implied by him saying something along the lines "you cannot defeat me in the center of my power" while Luke was heavily weakened, his movements were sluggish and he looked like Igor with a lightsaber since he was trying to resist Byss power.

Where in the comic does it say Luke was massively amped in their 2nd duel??? I haven't read the comic in a while but from what I recall nothing supports that. People mention Leia but the Force Harmony tech only happened when Luke and Leia and Solo used it on Palpatines force storm connection. Before that I found no evidence, not even the audio book says anything on the matter. In fact Leia couldn't even see the 2 fight, she only felt "the dark side and light clashing" which supports that DE Luke and Palps are equals more than anything. Nothing about supporting him in the fight though.

Pretty sure it's stated Leia used " rudimentary battle meditation" or something along those lines.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
What made you lower DE Luke so much?

He was sub-Joruus just a year before, and while he did gain training from Palpatine and presumably a substantial boost as a result, his increase is still really vague. But mostly it's just me forgetting his feats lol.

It also doesn't help him here that I have TM above the likes of Valkorion.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Pretty sure it's stated Leia used " rudimentary battle meditation" or something along those lines.

Know where that was said??? I cam check the comic, if it's in audiobook Id have to check that some other time.

It's stated in Empire's End, IIRC.

Leia doesn't amp Luke until after the duel. This is definitevly stated in the audiobook.