Originally posted by h1a8
Miracle machine isn't needed. "Everything is vibrations really."
Originally posted by abhilegend
Miracle Machine wasn't even activated at that point.Oh the sentry fanboys.
The miracle machine wasn't activated, that's right.
The point is that Darkseid was specifically vulnerable to a counter-vibration, which isn't the case with Sentry.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Also.mmm
1) That comes from a What if.
2) This just proves that the Sentry coming from this What if is extremely weak.
Originally posted by abhilegend
RW has used What if Seige as an example though. And it's certainly more usable than Sentry suddenly being able to tank what a multiversal being couldn't.
A what if with a completely different context, with a report of Atau to Uatu from Earth-616 at the end to warn him about what could have happened if Sentry didn't have a mental breakdown.
The Sentry of this reality is for all intents and purpose identical to his Earth-616 counterpart power-wise minus his state of mind.
Your what if, on the other hand, is just a purpose at lowballing.
So far:
No counters have been provided to Sentry's abilities.
Sentry stomps.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Which double standards ?I only see people anti-sentry neglecting the context to try to form an argument?
This has been said over and over.
Sentry was weakened by his agoraphobia which at the same time made him fear to lose the control of his powers against Green Scar which he did.
Three proofs that Sentry is agoraphobic and weakened by it:
A) it is said on panel that Sentry is agoraphobic, that he is afraid to lose the control of his powers against Hulk and the he is still in his 29 hours agoraphobic crisis when he has no other choice to leave home to rescue his friends.
B) Sentry has far less energy than usual. He can barely affect several city blocks while releasing all of his energy against Hulk despite the fact he was destroying entire planets while holding back against Photon
C) Sentry said on panel that he is losing the control of his powers and ask Hulk to stop him.
Yeah you give feats and blind the context on purpose or beause you know it or because you don't want to know it?
1) The first Heliccarier you are speaking about, Sentry tried to land it to avoid killing everyone on board. That's a lot more delicate than just "lifting it". The Helicarrier was falling. He had to be careful.
2) The second Helicarrier didn't do damages at all. Bob came back to consciousness, unharmed and then had a mental breakdown so that's not a suitable argument too.
Nope.
He suicided himself, lowered his durability and forced Thor to "kill" him. That's not the context that you are trying to show again.
What the **** ?
And Hercules couldn't take him down while Sentry just wanted to talk...
Koed briefly at a time Sentry believed that he could be damaged physically.
Now, Sentry's body can be attacked it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect him anymore.
Sentry still beat Blue Marvel.
Sentry awakened and understood how his power works. At least he got more knowledge about himself and his molecule manipulation is more powerful than Molecule Man's because he beat him despite the large skill gap between them.
Sentry isn't possible to beat physically anymore.
One more time.
MM's mental instability has NEVER been the factor weakening him.
ONLY MM's mental inhibition placed upon his powers are what weakens him. That's all. Claiming anything different is pure bullshit.
Molecule Man just recognized that he lost to Sentry. Apparently some readers can't do the same...
1) The book was never stated to have infinite weight which he hasn't.
2) Ultraman took the book, not Superman.
3) It's a pointless feat to use in a battle forum as it gives no real indication about the strength of Superman.
4) Superman doesn't hold back against many beings like Darkseid.
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Superman has no feats to beat Sentry's molecule manipulation / reality warping.
Sentry is stronger because he was capable to stop Exitar pushing down to Earth when Rogue with the powers of all heroes on Earth completely fails to affect him at all, while Superman need the help of Wonder Woman and Martian Manhunter to move Brainiac's ship.
Sentry hit harder because he makes a Planet bigger than Earth shake despite he is holding back while Superman has to go all out to make the Earth shake.
Sentry energy absorption and projection are several magnitudes above Superman because he can absorb and release energies able to burst planets while holding back and Superman can't.
Sentry is more durable than Superman because he is more powerful than Molecule Man in molecule manipulation / reality warping and that allows him to change his durability at that level.
If Sentry's body is destroyed he don't care and come back instantly. If Superman's body is destroyed he is dead.
Superman is vulnerable to telepathy, Sentry doesn't care, trying to enter in his mind can kill you or make you his slave. Sentry can wipe the mind of everyone on a whim, effortlessly.
Superman is vulnerable to magic, Sentry doesn't care about Dr Strange's most powerful Dark Magic and can go through Dr Doom's Force Field amped by magic...
And the list goes on...
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Check & Mate.
Sentry godstomps the JLA.
Originally posted by abhilegend
I see RW is still spewing nonsense.
So I'm not blocked anymore ?
I guess that you are projecting again, you are one of the rare people spewing nonsense here.
Where is Darkseid stated to be vulnerable to counter vibrations ?
It doesn't have to be stated.
He is destroyed by Superman singing XD
Do you know what is amusing ?
You are poorly trying to make that feat pass for more than it is by claiming that Superman could do the same to Sentry.
Now grow a pair and post a scan that back-up your claim that Sentry can be defeated the same way.
child
It's amusing that you call me a child and act yourself like a 5 years old in this thread and the others.
You are barely legal and trying to play the adult here.
Amusing, really.
You are still blocked. I just wanted to know if there is anything other than sheer trolling from your part.
I found nothing beyond your childish tantrums and exaggerated claims.
"Darkseid is vulnerable because he was defeated by a song. I will bring no proof but you have to prove it".
You are not worth my time. Can anyone remotely intelligent show up and defend Sentry other than these two trolls?
Originally posted by abhilegend
]You are still blocked. I just wanted to know if there is anything other than sheer trolling from your part.
Hilarious that you are accusing me of trolling while it's the only thing that you've made in this thread and multiple others.
I found nothing beyond your childish tantrums and exaggerated claims.
More Ad Hominems please.
That's another proof that you are incapable to back-up your claims.
Everything that I've said about the Sentry is officially backed-up by Marvel authors and writers.
"Darkseid is vulnerable because he was defeated by a song. I will bring no proof but you have to prove it".
Stop moving the goalpost to what happened to Darkseid.
You are trying to divert the audience... It's obvious for the readers that you are running away because you can't back-up anything.
That remembers me the thread Karate Kid Vs Kenshiro.
I countered your silly claims and you instantly left the thread, it's what you are doing here while adding some childish trolling, that must be the flavour of the month.
You are not worth my time.
Oh really ?
Do you mind to back-up your last claim that Superman can one-shot Sentry by singing like you said or should we consider that another childish attempt at trolling that thread ?
Can anyone remotely intelligent show up and defend Sentry other than these two trolls?
Ok now you are calling me an idiot and a troll ?
You know what ?
You are so insignificant and pathetic that I will not even report you.
Your childish spam just amuse me.
Keep going on please.
And again...
Any proof that Superman can beat Sentry by singing ? 😆
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Which double standards ?I only see people anti-sentry neglecting the context to try to form an argument?
Originally posted by RealityWarper
This has been said over and over.Sentry was weakened by his agoraphobia which at the same time made him fear to lose the control of his powers against Green Scar which he did.
Three proofs that Sentry is agoraphobic and weakened by it:
A) it is said on panel that Sentry is agoraphobic, that he is afraid to lose the control of his powers against Hulk and the he is still in his 29 hours agoraphobic crisis when he has no other choice to leave home to rescue his friends.
B) Sentry has far less energy than usual. He can barely affect several city blocks while releasing all of his energy against Hulk despite the fact he was destroying entire planets while holding back against Photon
C) Sentry said on panel that he is losing the control of his powers and ask Hulk to stop him.
"Does it always feels so good when you finally let go" This is straight out of Sentrys mouth and the on panel fact I go by not some interpretation of yours, sorry. He lt finally go, which means unleashed his entire power on WWH. If he would be weakened it would be just a fraction and he would have stated this. It can't get more clear than this.
This is the collateral Damage argument, which doesn't works on earth. I love to use it myself against hypocrites but am aware how stupid it is to believe in it. So no you are wrong, it was his full power.
If it would be a fraction of his powers he wouldn't lose control, and losing control means he is really going all out and can't hold it back. He tanks bruce for having the chance to really unleashe everything he has. Which was enough to turn the Hulk into banner, impressive tbh.
So no, you are wrong imvho and I go by the on panel statement of Sentry.
Originally posted by RealityWarperYeah you give feats and blind the context on purpose or beause you know it or because you don't want to know it?
1) The first Heliccarier you are speaking about, Sentry tried to land it to avoid killing everyone on board. That's a lot more delicate than just "lifting it". The Helicarrier was falling. He had to be careful.
2) The second Helicarrier didn't do damages at all. Bob came back to consciousness, unharmed and then had a mental breakdown so that's not a suitable argument too.
Originally posted by RealityWarperNope.
He suicided himself, lowered his durability and forced Thor to "kill" him. That's not the context that you are trying to show again.
Thor fought evently with the MM beating Sentry.
Till Iron Man decded to beat the Void out of Sentry with the Helicarrier:
Sentry mortal and weak, the Void is defeated, albeit shortly:
Bob wants to die, but before he can finish or lower his defenses Void takes over and attacks the Avengers. We see that he lost control and is the Void again. Thor kills him.
Those are simple facts, looking at the scans, there is no room or need to interprete anything, it's actually clear cut. Thor killed the Void out Sentry.
now if Sentry would be really so powerful as people claim and MM wasn't weakened, showings like this would be impossible, even if one has mastered mental gymnastics and stretched his imagination through his ass right into his mouth for an infinite loop.
Originally posted by RealityWarperWhat the **** ?
And Hercules couldn't take him down while Sentry just wanted to talk...
Skills > brawn. And Herc is another benchmark we have to judge Sentrys durability, speed and strength.
Originally posted by RealityWarperKoed briefly at a time Sentry believed that he could be damaged physically.
Second fight, Sentry won, barely as one can see...
So he is slightly above Blue Marvel, like Thor or WWH. Which makes sense, since those two were able to ko and/or kill him.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Now, Sentry's body can be attacked it doesn't matter, it doesn't affect him anymore.
Since this Sentry is above the Sentry who fought MM, a showing like this should be impossible. So it means that MM wasn't at full power, weakened by his fears or if it was a very low showing for MM. He has a lot of those though as he is only human, physically. He got beaten up by CA, defeated by a Watcher, subdued by Dr. Doom. He is like a trigger to an A-Bomb, weak body and a lot of power to tap into.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry awakened and understood how his power works. At least he got more knowledge about himself and his molecule manipulation is more powerful than Molecule Man's because he beat him despite the large skill gap between them.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Sentry isn't possible to beat physically anymore.
Originally posted by RealityWarperOne more time.
MM's mental instability has NEVER been the factor weakening him.
ONLY MM's mental inhibition placed upon his powers are what weakens him. That's all. Claiming anything different is pure bullshit.
The mental inhibition is in his case a mental instability.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Molecule Man just recognized that he lost to Sentry. Apparently some readers can't do the same...
I do, but only with context. So maybe the writer in this arc indeed though like you do but changed his opinion and others never shared it. Is also a possiblity. Generally speaking and looking at all showings without interpretation just what is shown and said on panel, everything sans this one showing places him at the HH or low Trans range. Nothing bad.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
1) The book was never stated to have infinite weight which he hasn't.2) Ultraman took the book, not Superman.
3) It's a pointless feat to use in a battle forum as it gives no real indication about the strength of Superman.
4) Superman doesn't hold back against many beings like Darkseid.
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And yes, Ultraman did it too, an alternate version of Superman, this does not take away anything for this feat on the contrary. We know that Supes would have been able to do it by himself through this but that wouldn't be what a responsible hero tries.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Superman has no feats to beat Sentry's molecule manipulation / reality warping.-----------------------------------------------------------------
Check & Mate.
That's how a check and mate looks like btw. Scans from the showings we talk about, not some dragged on scans from different comics and interpretations/mental gymnastics drawn through multiple writer takes on a char. Clear cut, simple and honest.
It was nice while it lasted. But as said, we already agreed not to agree but I had to do this at least once as it was hard to watch this BS going on. No offense.
Oh one thing. Thanks for the "If the writer wants it" argument from the other thread. Because after all, that's what counts and the writers obviously wanted those feats to be clear cut, else they would have given us "your" interpretation. Since it's obvious that they have another view on the matter than you, I roll with them. 😉
Magical book. Useless feat. Nowhere near infinite weight. Infinite pages is a FAR cry from infinite weight. Superman, CM and Ultraman together don't have anywhere near infinite strength. You can throw in BA, WW, Supergirl, maximal, powergirl and Mon-el and they all together would be like a raindrop to an ocean compared to infinite strength.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
]Yours.
I only see you neglecting on panel facts to dismiss Sentrys low feats and blindly accepting the only feat you deem good. 1 feat... like really.
This is the one feat that proves that he power-level has no boundaries.
Yes he might be weakened by it or not, it doesn't matter for this fight as he said
It does matter.
"Does it always feels so good when you finally let go" This is straight out of Sentrys mouth and the on panel fact I go by not some interpretation of yours, sorry. He lt finally go, which means unleashed his entire power on WWH. If he would be weakened it would be just a fraction and he would have stated this. It can't get more clear than this.
You still don't understand what I am saying.
I agreed that Sentry consumed his entire power AT THE MOMENT.
Sentry was weakened, depowered and losing the control of his powers...
It is obvious that if a stable Sentry can destroy entire worlds while holding back against Photon, this very unstable Sentry is clearly depowered by his agoraphobia if going all-out for him only means to destroy a few city blocks.
The agoraphobia is still effective during his fact against Hulk and making him lose the control of his powers. He even ask Hulk to stop him because of that...
You fail to see that...
It's cool to call me on bias when you don't know how the agoraphobia and the generalised anxiety disorder works and in which measure it affects Sentry's powers.
This is the collateral Damage argument, which doesn't works on earth.
Bullshit.
We clearly see that Sentry isn't as powerful as he was against Photon.
I love to use it myself against hypocrites but am aware how stupid it is to believe in it. So no you are wrong, it was his full power.
No.
You are just exposing your bias once more.
If it would be a fraction of his powers he wouldn't lose control, and losing control means he is really going all out and can't hold it back. He tanks bruce for having the chance to really unleashe everything he has. Which was enough to turn the Hulk into banner, impressive tbh.
So no, you are wrong imvho and I go by the on panel statement of Sentry.
Keep pretending to not understand what I've said at the beginning of the post.
He had to be careful hence he failed? I mean seriously? If he would be as powerful as you claim...
Being powerful has nothing to do with that...
Sentry wanted to land the Helicarrier safely to avoid killing everyone on board.
There is a big difference between simply lifting a Helicarrier and avoiding killing everyone on board by stopping it.
So he was koed, by a Helicarrier, uncouncious.
He wasn't Koed by the Helicarrier.
Bob awakened and was completely unharmed.
Thanks, we agree. At least we have now an good average to know what it takes to ko him and to tank his entire power.
Bullshit. You are taking things out of context once more.
Wrong. This needs to be debunked once and for all. So here is the scene. It's clear cut. Sentry wants to die, yes. The Void takes over, so it took control and commands the whole power of Sentry. Thor goes for the kill and delivers the deadly blows.
My god the interpretation...
Bob wants to die, he changes into the Void to force Thor to kill him because the latter refused to do it. It's on panel god damn it.
That's a fact if looking at this scans, no need for some extra interpretations to find some excuses. If Sentry would have been in control and able to lower his defenses, he would have prevented the Void taking over. He wasn't able, void took over, survival instinct I guess, still Thor managed to kill it. So we know also what it takes to kill the Sentry.
Do I have to make a rebuttal for something you are making-up on the fly ? I guess not.
Go go skip more context please.
"In Siege #4 he is killed by a lightning strike from Thor after the Void is fully released. "
This is btw Voided out Sentry, the one who mastered his powers after the MM fight.
Do you even read what you are typing ?
How does Bob is supposed to redeem himself if he do more evil deeds ?
How is he supposed to be killed by a hero if he kills everyone ?
Damn. Understanding the context is clearly not your strong suit.
Thor fought evently with the MM beating Sentry.
Till Iron Man decded to beat the Void out of Sentry with the Helicarrier:Sentry mortal and weak, the Void is defeated, albeit shortly:
Bob wants to die, but before he can finish or lower his defenses Void takes over and attacks the Avengers. We see that he lost control and is the Void again. Thor kills him.
The Void whom is screaming "KILL ME" thus following Bob's wishes.
Bob clearly changed his shape on purpose to let Thor kill him.
Those are simple facts, looking at the scans, there is no room or need to interprete anything, it's actually clear cut.
That's right, there is no room to interpretate and you are still doing it.
Thor killed the Void out Sentry.
Because the Void allowed Thor to do it...
When Thor was amped by the Norn Stones, thus a lot more powerful than ever he was incapable to beat the Void and now you want to make us believe that he can one-shot the Void...
Bullshit.
Keep ignoring that Bendis said that the Void allowed Thor to kill him and that wouldn't have happen otherwise.
Keep ignoring that Thor and the Avengers faced the Void at least two other times in the past and that they were insects to him and that Sentry was the only one whom could save them...
now if Sentry would be really so powerful as people claim and MM wasn't weakened, showings like this would be impossible, even if one has mastered mental gymnastics and stretched his imagination through his ass right into his mouth for an infinite loop.
The only explanation is that Bob didn't REALLY WANT TO KILL EVERYONE.
He is suffering a tragic mental illness and fight against it everyday...
Context damn it...
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Even if he wanted to talk, with all his power he should be able to subdue Hercules and talk to him. Herc treated him like an kid.
Skills > brawn. And Herc is another benchmark we have to judge Sentrys durability, speed and strength.
Nope.
I've never said that Sentry is a skilled fighter, he is quite a novice in the matter.
Still Sentry killed Ares whom is arguably at least as skilled and durable as Hercules so your argument is moot.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
So it's 1:1
Blue Marvel koed Sentry, clear win.Second fight, Sentry won, barely as one can see...
So he is slightly above Blue Marvel, like Thor or WWH. Which makes sense, since those two were able to ko and/or kill him.
Or.
1) That proves that Blue Marvel is a lot more powerful than people think.
2) Sentry clearly stated that he was holding back.
3) BM is more skilled in combat that Sentry but still had to sucker punch him.
4) This is chronologically a lot of time before Dark Avengers vs Molecule Man
You fail to grasp the context again and Sentry still won that fight, they put Blue Marvel in a stasis field right after that.
That's your interpretations. His showings prove otherwise. Thor affected even Death Sentry,
Sentry wasn't even trying against Thor.
He put the shit out of him with literally no effort.
He lowered his durability on purpose to prove that damaging his body doesn't matter...
He allowed Wasp to hurt him with her weak energy blast despite the fact he is able to absorb planet-busting energy attack at the minimum god damn it...
who heald but was again physically beaten by a worm.
He was captured by the worm for the plot and not physically beaten as you are claiming.
Since this Sentry is above the Sentry who fought MM, a showing like this should be impossible.
Except plot reason.
So it means that MM wasn't at full power, weakened by his fears or if it was a very low showing for MM.
Bullshit.
I explained why MM was at full power and you keep handwaving it by giving your opinion instead of giving reasons coming from the comics and backing them up, which is not possible because there isn't a single instance in DA where MM say that he cannot do anything.
Period.
He has a lot of those though as he is only human, physically. He got beaten up by CA, defeated by a Watcher, subdued by Dr. Doom. He is like a trigger to an A-Bomb, weak body and a lot of power to tap into.
You are quoting several events with different context.
None of them having the same context than the fight between Sentry and MM.
The only ones with similar context are the two fights against the Beyonder where MM was at full power. The rest is complete bullshit.
Maybe he was like Kryptonite for MM or MM was weakened.
BOUM !
Argumentum EX CULO !
I have nothing to add to that !
This the most logical explanation as he never showed anything compareable to MM even after the fight.
Nope it's a bold claim and completely ignorant of the context.
Molecule Man himself had no showing on that order before beating the Beyonder BUT he needed the intervention of Dr Doom to understand his potential.
Sentry needed to be beaten a few times by Molecule Man to understand his own potential and destroy Molecule Man the same way.
That's the only valid explanation and all of your interpretation is pure and simple bullshit.
If he really would be simply more powerful, we would never have the showings you so desperately try to dismiss with your interpretations.
Except for the writer to make a story ?
Wishful thinking. Thor killed an all out Void. A worm defeated Death Sentry who was even more powerful. Well, truth be told I also think that Thor or that Worm can oneshot MM if they get the chance to strike him. Like CA did.
I have already addressed your Argumentum Ex Culo above.
The mental inhibition is in his case a mental instability.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand another made-up argument on the fly ! Wouhouuuuuuuuuu !
That's your problem.
You can't accept being wrong on something.
Is that some kind of professional deformation that makes you unable to accept to be schooled or what ?
It has been established since the beginning that the only thing that makes Molecule Man unable to do something is the limitations he places upon his powers. That's all ! Period !
Molecule Man can be as nuts as squirrel on LSD that will not change his power-level or his abilities ! Period !
I do, but only with context.
Clearly not.
You are creating your own context because of your bias against the character.
So maybe
AND BOOM !
You fail to have arguments so why not continue to create arguments on the fly, right ?
the writer in this arc indeed though like you do but changed his opinion and others never shared it.
What the hell are you talking about ?????
Bendis just told what's in the script. He can't change that.
The problem comes from the readers, the writer isn't to blame when you fail to comprehend something. The fault is on you my friend.
Is also a possiblity.
The fact that people completely miss the point of the writer is the only possibility when the writer explain his own work and people keep sticking with their own version of the comics, that's called the "Backfire Effect".
Generally speaking and looking at all showings without interpretation just what is shown and said on panel, everything sans this one showing places him at the HH or low Trans range. Nothing bad.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand COMPLETELY INACCURATE !
Actually it has. No room or need for interpretation:
"The Strengh and Stamina of Hercules AND Atlas And the Power of Zeus! If ANYONE can help me LIFT A BOOK WITH AN INFINITE NuMBER OF PAGES, you can!"
It is said that the book contain EVERY BOOK POSSIBLE.
You can't have an infinite number of books.
Why needding strength, stamina and power? Morrison created the perfect strength feat, on panel, with statements. I know that FC is hard to grasp for some people but this here isn't.
I still disagree. That's an hyperbolic interpretation at best.
And yes, Ultraman did it too, an alternate version of Superman, this does not take away anything for this feat on the contrary. We know that Supes would have been able to do it by himself through this but that wouldn't be what a responsible hero tries.
You can't give the feats of Ultraman to Superman and the book doesn't have an infinite weight neither.
Superman doesn't have molecule manipulation feats, so that's a given.
That's an instant loss against Sentry in my book.
Based on feats we know that Sentry is weak to physical harm,
Bullshit.
The writer has to weaken Sentry so the most powerful version of Hulk has remotely a chance to do something.
He was stated to be physically invincible by the Shield and Tony Stark.
can be koed by less
He can't be KOed anymore.
and killed by a bit more.
He can't be killed at all.
Superman beats him physically 😉.
Yeah sure.
Superman struggle against Darkseid, Sentry stops the descent of one of the most powerful Celestial just by sheer strength...
Exitar is more powerful than the complete 4th Celestial Host. That tells volumes about Sentry power.
That's how a check and mate looks like btw. Scans from the showings we talk about, not some dragged on scans from different comics and interpretations/mental gymnastics drawn through multiple writer takes on a char. Clear cut, simple and honest.
Exactly.
One thought from the Void is all that is needed to make the JLA history.
Check and mate.
It was nice while it lasted. But as said, we already agreed not to agree but I had to do this at least once as it was hard to watch this BS going on. No offense.
Sure. No hard feelings on my side either minus the fact that I find your way of debating a bit irritating. Whatever.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Oh one thing. Thanks for the "If the writer wants it" argument from the other thread. Because after all, that's what counts and the writers obviously wanted those feats to be clear cut, else they would have given us "your" interpretation.
The writers wanted a story. Not a fight to feed the battleboards junky.
Since it's obvious that they have another view on the matter than you, I roll with them. 😉
I didn't give any view.
We didn't see a limit to Sentry's power by now.
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Originally posted by JBL
Magical book. Useless feat. Nowhere near infinite weight. Infinite pages is a FAR cry from infinite weight. Superman, CM and Ultraman together don't have anywhere near infinite strength. You can throw in BA, WW, Supergirl, maximal, powergirl and Mon-el and they all together would be like a raindrop to an ocean compared to infinite strength.
EXITAR >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shitty magical book