Originally posted by carver9
The door was reinforced in magic as well. It was enchanted.
Carver, where is the link to the interview you promised me?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f104/t644483.html
Originally posted by Board Walker
All of Jane Thor's strength is 100% derived from magic, she is not an asgardian but a normal human female.Her feat of ripping through that door is purely because of gic enhancement.
Are you trolling? Because youre making zero sense. Yes magic is the source of her power (namely mjolnir). But it only serves to augment her strength, making her skin dense etc..imbuing her with power. That door pry was a strength feat.
Originally posted by carver9
The door was reinforced in magic as well. It was enchanted.
Enchanted by Roxxon magic? How uber.
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Are you trolling? Because youre making zero sense. Yes magic is the source of her power (namely mjolnir). But it only serves to augment her strength, making her skin dense etc..imbuing her with power. That door pry was a strength feat.Enchanted by Roxxon magic? How uber.
Jane is a normal human being who has normal female level strength, and durability. Her being transformed into Thor is done purely by magic via Mjolnir, her feat of ripping through that door was accomplished purely because of the magic that flows through her and empowers her.
What is it you do not understand? You think her strength is just amplified because Mjolnir put her on an intense workout routine? Magic flows through every molecule of her when she is Thor.
Originally posted by Board Walker
Jane is a normal human being who has normal female level strength, and durability. Her being transformed into Thor is done purely by magic via Mjolnir, her feat of ripping through that door was accomplished purely because of the magic that flows through her and empowers her.What is it you do not understand? You need her strength is just amplified because Mjolnir put her on an intense workout routine? Magic flows through every molecule of her when she is Thor.
Semantics. Its STILL a strength feat. Y arent you comprehending this is beyond me. So when juggernaut lifts a boulder its a magic feat? When Batson stops a train wreck etc...
Originally posted by Sin I AM
Semantics. Its STILL a strength feat. Y arent you comprehending this is beyond me. So when juggernaut lifts a boulder its a magic feat? When Batson stops a train wreck etc...
To answer your question, when Juggernaut lifts a boulder yes it is a magic feat. It demonstrates to some quantifiable degree the level of power, and potency of the magic that channels through him. A strength feat would be Marko Cain without the crimson bands empowering him, lifting a boulder.
If Strange were to use his magic to lift a train it is a feat of magical power, the same as Thor using the magic of Mjolnir to rip through those doors. Rather than project it in a ranged manner, she uses it in a melee manner. The difference in range versus melee application of magical power, is indifferent to it still being a magical power feat.
Originally posted by Board Walker
To answer your question, when Juggernaut lifts a boulder yes it is a magic feat. It demonstrates to some quantifiable degree the level of power, and potency of the magic that channels through him. A strength feat would be Marko Cain without the crimson bands empowering him, lifting a boulder.If Strange were to use his magic to lift a train it is a feat of magical power, the same as Thor using the magic of Mjolnir to rip through those doors. Rather than project it in a ranged manner, she uses it in a melee manner. The difference in range versus melee application of magical power, is indifferent to it still being a magical power feat.
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Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
I thought thors strength was natural
When Thor the Asgardian lifts a boulder it could be argued to be a strength and magical feat, due to the fact that he has physiologically enhanced strength due to his Asgardian physiology. Furthermore, it is also a magical power feat due to that any strength required beyond the limit of his Asgardian physiology derived strength is fulled by the magical power of Mjolnir/other enhancements (IE Odin power, etc.).
In the case of Female Thor who is only a human female, nearly all of her feats that require strength and physical stats beyond that of a normal human female are all Magical power feats. This is because the power to accomplish these feats has nothing to do with physical strength, they are purely derived from the magical power of Mhjolnir
Originally posted by TethAdamTheRock
So how strong is thor without mljonir?
I would say a good example of that is when Thor became the Unworthy, and wasn't able to wield Mjolnir anymore. That arc lasted long enough to get an idea of how strong Thor is without Mjolnir, but even in that case he had other sources of magical power/items supplementing the void that Mjolnir no longer filled.
Originally posted by Board Walker
To answer your question, when Juggernaut lifts a boulder yes it is a magic feat. It demonstrates to some quantifiable degree the level of power, and potency of the magic that channels through him. A strength feat would be Marko Cain without the crimson bands empowering him, lifting a boulder.If Strange were to use his magic to lift a train it is a feat of magical power, the same as Thor using the magic of Mjolnir to rip through those doors. Rather than project it in a ranged manner, she uses it in a melee manner. The difference in range versus melee application of magical power, is indifferent to it still being a magical power feat.
I disagree wholeheartedly if thats the case anyone whos fueled by anything cant lay claim to strength because its an outside force. The whole premise is bs
Originally posted by Board Walker
When Thor the Asgardian lifts a boulder it could be argued to be a strength and magical feat, due to the fact that he has physiologically enhanced strength due to his Asgardian physiology. Furthermore, it is also a magical power feat due to that any strength required beyond the limit of his Asgardian physiology derived strength is fulled by the magical power of Mjolnir/other enhancements (IE Odin power, etc.).In the case of Female Thor who is only a human female, nearly all of her feats that require strength and physical stats beyond that of a normal human female are all Magical power feats. This is because the power to accomplish these feats has nothing to do with physical strength, they are purely derived from the magical power of Mhjolnir
Hulks lifting fts. What kind of fts are those since he is empowered by radiation?
Originally posted by Board Walker
All of Jane Thor's strength is 100% derived from magic, she is not an asgardian but a normal human female.Her feat of ripping through that door is purely because of gic enhancement.
Magic is used to transform Jane's body into an Asgardian Goddess named Thor. So yes, her strength is derived from magic but that doesn't make it any less physical.
This is a really weird argument that has zero basis in canon.
Literally the entire point of the scene was to highlight just how physically strong she was as Thor. She was freaking out and was like, let me see just how strong I really am as Thor and such.
I would like to point out that the door was also magically protected by Malekith on top of it's physical properties. Jane ripping through it while losing power is a ridiculously high end feat.
WWH on the other hand made it very clear just how tough Adamantium was, even in comparison to the Hulk multiple times throughout the arc. It was used to cut him many times, pin him down and it was IIRC highlighted how he couldn't damage it.
Jane Thor and Hulk fighting in Thor #700. This should prove to be interesting....I kind of feel bad for the Hulk? There's a 50/50 chance it's either a good fight or he gets completely pulverized?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I would like to point out that the door was also magically protected by Malekith on top of it's physical properties. Jane ripping through it while losing power is a ridiculously high end feat.WWH on the other hand made it very clear just how tough Adamantium was, even in comparison to the Hulk multiple times throughout the arc. It was used to cut him many times, pin him down and it was IIRC highlighted how he couldn't damage it.
Jane Thor and Hulk fighting in Thor #700. This should prove to be interesting....I kind of feel bad for the Hulk? There's a 50/50 chance it's either a good fight or he gets completely pulverized?
Aaron thinks highly of Hulk. Remember, he did say Hulk is the most powerful being in the Universe. Should be an interesting fight tbh but the way be is making it sound, it seems like Thor is in trouble. His words "and Thor is left alone fighting the Hulk".