(II) Dark-Side Showdown (CANON)

isn't it normal to outrun blaster bolts in sw? seems like grievous should be more than able to imo

Depends by what you mean "outrun". But, no, I can't think of many characters running faster than a blaster bolt moves.

Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
Going with Vader and Ren.

Originally posted by toplel
isn't it normal to outrun blaster bolts in sw? seems like grievous should be more than able to imo

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Vader's never shown the ability, that I can recall.

Ventress is capable of doing so, why wouldn't Vader?

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
Ventress is capable of doing so, why wouldn't Vader?

Dark Disciple.

Huh, quote?

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Teams of two face off.

[B]- Darth Maul (SoD)
- Savage Opress (TCW)

- Darth Tyranus (ROTS)
- General Grievous (ROTS)

- Quinlan Vos (DD)
- Asajj Ventress (DD)

- Darth Vader (R)
- Kylo Ren (TFA)

* Best two teams take on:
- Darth Sidious (TCW)

* Worst team takes on:
- Darth Vader (ROTS)

All characters are at their peak. [/B]

Vos and Ventress lose to Dooku by himself (as seen in the novel); add Grievous and they stand little chance.

It comes down to Dooku + Grievous vs Vader + Kylo

We know Kylo has some incredible talent in the force, but we've seen his lackluster dueling abilities. His only real chance is going against Grievous and ragdolling him with minimal saber combat; Dooku is too powerful for Ren.

Rebels Vader vs Dooku in canon is a closer fight than everyone thinks. I'll give Vader the win 6/10. Regardless; their fight will drag on for a while and it comes down to Kylo vs Grievous which is a lot of speculation.

I'm a bit discouraged by Kylo somewhat struggling with a non-force-sensitive storm-trooper wielding a lightsaber for the first time in his life. Even with the excuse that he was wounded or toying, Finn was able wound him. Rewatching the fight I found that Kylo's only real leverage was his strength; this would not work on Grievous who is far stronger, skillful, unpredictable, and possibly faster than Kylo.

Unless you can convince me otherwise about Kylo vs Grievous, I'm giving the ultimate win to team Dooku.

Dooku + Grievous + Vader + Kylo vs Sheev

Kylo is a non-factor here and so is Grievous.
Dooku and Vader put up a great fight but Sidious knows Vader's emotional and mechanical weaknesses. Sheev might have a tough-time with a single saber, but as soon as he puts it away and wields the force, the team has no leverage over him. Sheev 8-9/10

Worst team is Ventress and Vos IMO. They lose pretty badly to a knightfall Vader.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Huh, quote?

No, that wasn't it at all.

LMAO

dodging =/ outrunning

Originally posted by UCanShootMyNova
No, that wasn't it at all.

Ventress waves her hands and causes the blaster bolts to go back in the other direction.

That's a completely different power, lmfao.

Causing a blaster bolt to change directions is a completely different power then causing a blaster bolt to stop. Ok.

Yep. One is Force reflection, same power as Yoda uses against Dooku's lightning. The other is Force stasis, which Kylo uses vs Rey also.

The difference being Ventress isn't catching that energy in her hands and sending it back but actively altering its course in mid air.

All Kylo's doing is using telekinesis to freeze something in place. Force stasis is a Legends ability.

There is a Canon name for the power I saw in some children's book at the mall. You're right - it's not stasis, but it's specifically a stun power, I believe. The name was pretty funky. I'd need to see the Ventress quote, though. Chances are it is a variation of reflection.