Obi-Wan Kenobi (ROTS) vs Darth Maul (SoD)

Originally posted by Galan007
So you're of the opinion that Maul had to engage in rigorous physical combat in order to acclimate to his Mandalorian legs?

I would disagree there. Especially since they weren't the first set of prosthetics Maul had. In fact, they appeared far less clunky/complicated than his previous legs, and certainly were not implied to be inhibiting his movements at any point in time. /shrug

Agree to disagree. I think a new set of legs is a big change, whatever their make up. I do think a fair bit of time training would be required. And id say especially so after he just spent some time getting used to those Chicken Legs in combat.

Let me ask this. After Anakin getting his arm chopped off in AOTC, would you expect him to be back to peak combat efficiency shortly after without some rigorous physical combat practice?

Originally posted by RealistRacism
We didn't see Maul do excessive acrobatics against weak enemies, ergo he was having trouble with his legs. What a poor line of thought.

Thats why its supportive evidence, and not the main piece evidence in and off itself.

If he was doing some impressive combat work in that episode like he did in the next 2 episodes, then that would contradict me. As it was the evidence only supports my stance.

And since when are high level bounty hunters weak goes lmao

Your main evidence is what exactly? What Galan already addressed? The length of time? You still conceded my main point anyway, which was; How does this change to his legs affect his upper-body strength, so there's no need to waste more time.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Let me ask this. After Anakin getting his arm chopped off in AOTC, would you expect him to be back to peak combat efficiency shortly after without some rigorous physical combat practice?

Bear in mind, this isn't the real world where the recipients of prosthetics need to go through months of physical therapy in order to get used to their new limbs. In SW, prosthetics are hardwired directly to the recipient's nervous system -- they respond identically to organic limbs.

Not reading the whole discussion, but Filoni said at least Maul’s Talzin legs inhibited his agility.

Originally posted by RealistRacism
Your main evidence is what exactly? What Galan already addressed? The length of time? You still conceded my main point anyway, which was; How does this change to his legs affect his upper-body strength, so there's no need to waste more time.

Upper body strength? Did he not push the “dog” off him?

Originally posted by Galan007
If he first had it replaced with an oversized, clunky prosthetic arm that he'd gotten used to, and then had that replaced with a more normal, humanoid prosthetic that was nearly identical to his original arm(which is what Maul experienced with his legs)..? No, I don't think he'd have to rigorously exert himself in order to be able to fight as efficiently as before... Especially if he had an acclimation period with said prosthetic, like Maul did.

Bear in mind, this isn't the real world where the recipients of prosthetics need to go through months of physical therapy in order to get used to their new limbs. In SW, prosthetics are hardwired directly to the recipient's nervous system -- they respond identically to organic limbs.

I have a Filoni quote regarding the S4 finale Revenge, that he cant instantly fight in the style we remember him in TPM on those Velociraptor legs (his name for the chicken legs) and 10years our of practice.

Now that was regarding his Chicken Kegs but Id have to assume even with more humanoid legs, he would need at least some small time to practice fighting with them again.

There is also a Filoni quote of Revival Maul (just before getting his Prosthetic legs) that he was still in a recovery period.

In thirty whole seconds, and was struggling.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
As usual you are all over the place with your stance Lmao.

Obviously the Talzin legs would inhibit him. Just look at the damn things, lol.

Not sure why you think that automatically means the set of Mandalorian prosthetics would also significantly inhibit Maul, however, given the vast difference between them(velociraptor compared to humanoid)..? And as mentioned, it's not like Maul got off the table and immediately started fighting -- he had a significant adjustment period in which to grow accustomed with them before he encountered the Hutts. Moreover, the Mandalorian limbs were never stated to be neutering Maul's movements, like the previous set did.

So again, I don't quite follow the line of logic that Maul first needed to engage in rigorous physical combat in order to acclimate with the Mandalorian limbs. /shrug

^ I think an adjustment period for using new limbs in combat is most likely required. I think you yourself acknowledge this but believe he already had ample time in the episode.

Im simply of the stance that if he has a low showing in his first fight we see him in after receiving the new lower half body, then we should probably allow him some leeway on that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
How so? Your inability to comprehend my or anyones stances is on you not me, buddy.

Sure thing stalker.

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Damn, Quan and D Thor ****ing hate eachother 😂 arguing everywhere I go on kmc

I dont hate him. Just call out his BS when I see it (which is way too often).

He however is obsessed by me. Ordinarily he would be arguing for Maul here, but instead is taking another stance (he is not even sure what his stance is) just to give a thumbs up to anyone arguing with me Lmao

@Darth Power
When did you fall that low, to become some kind of Quan's arch-enemy? ^.-

^ Hes obsessed with me. Stalks me everywhere.

Finds any excuse to attempt to trigger me in random threads lol.

Like here he has no interest in Mauls legs. Im just calling out the inconsistency in his arguments due to his crazy obsession over me.

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Well, I have my golden rule - to not feed trolls. And it's really helpful for me.

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Originally posted by Darth Thor
^ I think an adjustment period for using new limbs in combat is most likely required. I think you yourself acknowledge this but believe he already had ample time in the episode.

Im simply of the stance that if he has a low showing in his first fight we see him in after receiving the new lower half body, then we should probably allow him some leeway on that.

Sure thing stalker.

You tried saying a 2:1 ratio is not lopsided. It definitely is. I have an interest with bad logic which you yourself just used. Plus this forum is a shell of itself. I used to be omnipresent.

Originally posted by McP
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Well, I have my golden rule - to not feed trolls. And it's really helpful for me.

Either way.