RotS Darth Sidious [Canon] vs Darth Plagueis [Legends]

Started by Rockydonovang3 pages

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Honestly, Palpatine.

how?

There's no "invisible" speed in Canon that I know of. So silly comparison. Either do composite or keep to one or the other.

Plagueis, but he doesn't annihilate or win every time.

No idea why people continue to propagate this Legends >>>> Canon in speed myth when the vast majority of speed feats in Legends consist of hyperbolic fluff invented by the authors rather than anything reliable or substantive. 😬

Regardless, in Canon Ezra Bridger can move faster than thought so go figure. 😱

Originally posted by Rockydonovang
how?
Better feats my man. FYI: Yoda no-selling a sentient Force resistant mountain prior to achieving new found zen at the hands of the Force priestesses is absolutely relevant in terms of scaling, whatever Ant's flimsy counter might be, and Sidious KO'ing Yoda with a single lightning blast before overloading his tutanimis frankly > anything Plaguies can garner from the Banite alternative. Just as his outing in Lords of the Sith where he's downing freighters, slaughtering fortified-city-threatening, forest-trampling Lylek hordes before cooking their Queen beats if not surpasses most of Plagueis' combat showings. And as a cosmic superpower Sidious retains the feat of sustaining the galactic Force imbalance with his sheer presence, in Canon clouding the Jedi's foresight to such a degree that even a combined mediation effort by the entire Jedi Council, which went on for days, failed to penetrate it. Which > unbalancing the Force initially with months of aided ritual.

Sidious remains the master here, yeah.

👆

Plagueis ends him.

Tbh, Beni convinced me. Sidious wins.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No idea why people continue to propagate this Legends >>>> Canon in speed myth when the vast majority of speed feats in Legends consist of hyperbolic fluff invented by the authors rather than anything reliable or substantive. 😬

They've always been taken super seriously on these boards (and on comicvine methinks).. With Maul and even Anakin not capable of seeing Sidious move.

Its hard to ignore when there is nearly Dozens of quotes from Millisecond/micro to nanosecond speed feats.

Also no Disney character has off put enough raw power to devastate a planet, Yoda's mountain feat pales.

Quite frankly Disney characters don't have the DC or Dura or speed to scale to Legends characters, they can't claim to off put as much destruction as the likes of nihilus or Vitiate. There affects on the cosmic force mean nothing. when they haven't shown to be able to compete the affects on the physical level. Their limit of knowledge is less than Legends.
They are downright inferior.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
They've always been taken super seriously on these boards (and on comicvine methinks).. With Maul and even Anakin not capable of seeing Sidious move.
Because it's explicitly stated yeah. I'm talking generic descriptors.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because it's explicitly stated yeah.

So that's way faster than anything in Canon no? As far as we know in Canon Jedi/Sith can all be seen in combat.

Heck Pre-Vizsla gets into sword fights with Kenobi and Maul.

We don't know that lel.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
We don't know that lel.

???

If we don't know that, then there's no reason to assume it given on screen feats. And I don't just mean limitations of live action movie choreography, but fights in animated form as well.

The viewer limitations are the same and you're assuming they could all be seen.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
No idea why people continue to propagate this Legends >>>> Canon in speed myth when the vast majority of speed feats in Legends consist of hyperbolic fluff invented by the authors rather than anything reliable or substantive. 😬

Regardless, in Canon Ezra Bridger can move faster than thought so go figure. 😱Better feats my man. FYI: Yoda no-selling a sentient Force resistant mountain prior to achieving new found zen at the hands of the Force priestesses is absolutely relevant in terms of scaling, whatever Ant's flimsy counter might be, and Sidious KO'ing Yoda with a single lightning blast before overloading his tutanimis frankly > anything Plaguies can garner from the Banite alternative. Just as his outing in Lords of the Sith where he's downing freighters, slaughtering fortified-city-threatening, forest-trampling Lylek hordes before cooking their Queen beats if not surpasses most of Plagueis' combat showings. And as a cosmic superpower Sidious retains the feat of sustaining the galactic Force imbalance with his sheer presence, in Canon clouding the Jedi's foresight to such a degree that even a combined mediation effort by the entire Jedi Council, which went on for days, failed to penetrate it. Which > unbalancing the Force initially with months of aided ritual.

Sidious remains the master here, yeah.


But what about the mountain feat supposedly being bunk?

Originally posted by Beniboybling
you're assuming they could all be seen.

Why wouldn't I assume that?

Because you have neither reason nor basis. 😬

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Because you have neither reason nor basis. 😬

I need reason or basis to assume somebody's Not Got invisible speed powers?

When said some bodies are Force wielding warriors with preternatural powers, mere fledglings of which can move "faster than thought", then yes... you ninny.

Originally posted by Beniboybling
When said some bodies are Force wielding warriors with preternatural powers, mere fledglings of which can move "faster than thought", then yes... you ninny.

facepalm

Wow I guess Dooku's a bit of a doofus for surrendering to pirates with guns then 😂

And what a pillock Kenobi is not one shotting Pre-Vizsla, or Cad Bane, or every pirate/mandalorian who ever beat him up.