Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
From what I recall Hercules was injured and deranged and it was made quite clear that Aquaman had a significant disadvantage in stats no? If Aquaman can somehow drag Ulik to water and keep him there, maybe he could outswim him for an advantage but he isn't Namor. Dipping his toe into water doesn't increase his stats to new proportions and if he gets hit by Ulik, he's going to get rocked. Hard. If Arthur had his trident, I can see him doing enough damage to win, barehanded? Ulik isn't that big of a loser....yet.
Think you should look back on the Hercules fight, I don't remember Hercules being suggested as injured. Deranged? Sure but not injured. Whereas Aquaman at first tried to talk him down, dropped his guard at one point, suggested he pitied what happened to Hercules and also fought a bunch of Giantborn before hand.
Keep in mind Wonder Woman suggested the Giantborn could kill her if she showed restraint against them.
So, I just want to b sure I understand some of my respected fellow board members.
Where have I failed you in my presentation? And, if not I, then, how have "the facts" failed u in finding the correct path... toward Ulik?
Is it that the feats and abilities I listed, r well below Aquaman?
Is it that u require scans, due to painful experiences u have had in the past, where u trusted the word of a friend, lover, family member, or a family member that was also a friend and a lover? (C'mon, u know who u r.) And ended up hurting because your trust was betrayed?
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Is it because u honestly feel that AM could take several hundred, full-strength from Thor and Mjolnir and b able to shrug off the effects?
Perhaps the fact that, the angrier Ulik gets, the stronger he gets, (a trait that has obviously been stolen by Hulk creators!)
Does it matter not that many of his best showings were when he had no weapons, going against the fabled thundergod and his "special maller"?
Perhaps the statements that were made, equating his strength to that of Thor, mean nothing, because AM is so much more powerful than the Son of Odin.
It could b that the 2, 3, 4 or more statements, noting that Ulik is powerful enough to destroy a planet WITH HIS FISTS, means nothing becausr AM is constantly getting the same statements made about him.
The ability to numb Thor's leg with a single swing, THAT MISSED, could possibly b commonplace for AM.
When it comes to speed, well we have all read the sad, and usually unrealistic stance that, althougj he has faced and defeated beings with "super speed". Well, then, its good that there r those individuals who agree that Thor's movements on-panel, along with several statements made, show a character who utilizes super speed in several ways. And, Ulik was able to keep up with them all during his battles with Thor.
In the end, impressive and important as Aquaman is, there is nothing AM has done that would indicate he could harm Ulik in any way that could lead to a win.
Also, it is common knowledge that AM, like Ulik, has had very poor showings, to go along with the good showings. I would even venture to say that, due to the much, much larger number of appearances made by AM, if one were to spend a little time searching, one might b able to find s larger number of poor showings belonging to AM, than those belonging to Ulik.
Many of those sad AM showings might even b of a more demeaning, or even hilarious nature, than any poor showings by Ulik.
Im just guessing.
Well, I hope that the data I have supplied, is studied, translated, transcribed, printed and memorized by thosr who wish to break away from the heard and run. Run with Ulik baby!!
Thank you.
(This study is dedicated to those of you who BELIEVED in Ulik, when nobody else would. Kudos to u my friends. In fact, help yourselves to a nice big "kudos sandwich"!)
Originally posted by EcstaticGrace
Think you should look back on the Hercules fight, I don't remember Hercules being suggested as injured. Deranged? Sure but not injured. Whereas Aquaman at first tried to talk him down, dropped his guard at one point, suggested he pitied what happened to Hercules and also fought a bunch of Giantborn before hand.Keep in mind Wonder Woman suggested the Giantborn could kill her if she showed restraint against them.
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Originally posted by abhilegendok abhi, so u HONESTLY believe Arthur can punch harder than Thor's hammer strikes?
Yes, because Ulik is such a badass with such a clean record. Arthur is in WW class of strength and can punch Ulik out.
Because, I saw your thread on the Oans and your attention to detail was excellent, the feats were orderly and undisputable.
If the creator of THAT thread is being honest about his opinion of AM being more powerful than Thor, I will take a dive into a pile of Aquaman books and check it out.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Aquaman catching up with WW in strength? Aren't you downplaying WW a bit much? Aquaman is a tier under WW, he is no where close.
Originally posted by Galan007
Aquaman/Dianna:
...As if we needed *more* confirmation that Aquaman is solidly in the WW/Superman tier...
Originally posted by Horrificus
ok abhi, so u HONESTLY believe Arthur can punch harder than Thor's hammer strikes?Because, I saw your thread on the Oans and your attention to detail was excellent, the feats were orderly and undisputable.
If the creator of THAT thread is being honest about his opinion of AM being more powerful than Thor, I will take a dive into a pile of Aquaman books and check it out.
Only time I recall Thor hitting Ulik with mjolnir was in Thor 139 and it oneshots Ulik.
Thanks anyhow for checking the respect thread.
Originally posted by vansonbee
Aquaman catching up with WW in strength? Aren't you downplaying WW a bit much? Aquaman is a tier under WW, he is no where close.
That used to be true, but isn't so much anymore. Remember also, PC Arthur was strong enough to knock J'onn on his ass, so it wasn't like he was particularly lacking.
I know nothing about Ulik though, so I don't know if that's enough to win or not.
