False Emperor Malgus vs Count Dooku

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MythLord Diamond

Tyranus. Malgus might be more destructive, but Dooku is more skilled, powerful, faster, has ways to combat superior strength and durability and is generally the more well-rounded combatant.

carthage PLEASE PROTECT ME STONES

Dooku skewers

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Opinions on Jensaraai's Video on this fight? No bashing Jensaraai just his video

Geistalt SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

I just don't see Dooku getting the Hero of Tython, the 3rd Barsen'thor, and a couple other heroes to kneel with Force Lightning simultaneously.

Originally posted by TenebrousWay
Pretty understandable to falter when fighting against a group lead by the guy that soloed Drommund Kaas and defeated a weakened Vitiate.
We're on the same side here, but it's always been an asinine assumption to say that Vitiate was weakened (when Hall Hood confirmed otherwise).

NewGuy01 perpetual

We know Vitiate was weakened because when he wasn't weakened he made the Hero look like a helpless child.

Also, what? So what you're saying is that if the Hero and Barsen'thor were getting blasted by Dooku's lightning, they'd just stand through it without flinching? Kekworthy.

Deronn_solo King Yami

Either way, but I lean Malgus. I'll make my case when I get off from work.

S_W_LeGenD Senior Member

Originally posted by NewGuy01
The Knight cited his anger and desperation as the reason he faltered. Regardless of the capability of his opponent, that sounds like a fairly classical description of a berserker-type fighter whose emotions cloud their judgement in battle.

Anger is an essential component of the psyche of a Sith - it is a source of strength for the Sith in combat situations on average. Darth Malgus was very good at utilizing his anger as a source of strength in a fight (remember the fate of Jedi Master Kao Cen Darach?).

However, Darth Malgus was up against a Strike Team of super-agents [in the referred fight] and it likely wear him down until he reached the point of desperation and lost momentum.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
Also, what? So what you're saying is that if the Hero and Barsen'thor were getting blasted by Dooku's lightning, they'd just stand through it without flinching? Kekworthy.

Yes, they would.

Remember how easily Obi-Wan Kenobi countered his Force lightning? And this was much before the latter's prime.

UCanShootMyNova Senior Member

He countered it with his lightsaber... Not tanking it.

NewGuy01 perpetual
Originally posted by S_W_LeGenD

Remember how easily Obi-Wan Kenobi countered his Force lightning? And this was much before the latter's prime.

With a lightsaber.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

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Tondemonai Senior Member

Malgus solidly

Geistalt SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

Originally posted by NewGuy01
We know Vitiate was weakened because when he wasn't weakened he made the Hero look like a helpless child.
You mean on Ziost?

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

In Act 2 and KOTFE, tbh. To say that Vitiate wasn't significantly weakened/hindered against the Hero on Kaas is ludicrous, and leads to some absolutely ridiculous lines of scaling.

TenebrousWay God Tier Vaylin
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ
In Act 2 and KOTFE, tbh. To say that Vitiate wasn't significantly weakened/hindered against the Hero on Kaas is ludicrous, and leads to some absolutely ridiculous lines of scaling.

It's nice to note, though, that Malgus still posed a greater challenge to the HoT than the weakened Vitiate on Drommund Kaas. 🙂

Geistalt SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

The Codex entry says he grew stronger every time.

XSUPREMEXSKILLZ The Immortal Emperor

What does that have to do with anything? It's explicitly stated like a billion times that Vitiate was weakened on Kaas, lmao.

Geistalt SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

He was still stronger on Ziost than in any previous incarnation.

Geistalt SilenceThatSpeaksVolumes

And grew stronger still thereafter.