Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆. Glad I've reduced you to Carver levels lol.Truly, I thought no one could get under your skin.
And neither have you, but kudos for trying.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
When do we all share that beer ?Stilt will bury us all at drinking games.
Best part is I'm sober af now, lol. Makes me worse than usual shocklaugh
Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Galactus calls him the most powerful being in Creation in the Ultimates comic and it is acknowledged that Owen works with the base information code of reality now.
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is what happens when Sentry meets someone actually using their reality warping powers. It happened AFTER Dark Avengers 12 where Sentry "defeated" Owen.Creel made sentry his ***** with just a fragment of cosmic cube.
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As show in the scans. Sentry reacts the way he did because Creel was separating him into parts. Are you suggesting Owen wasn't using his powers?
And it says "storing fragments". Not fragment.
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
As show in the scans. Sentry reacts the way he did because Creel was separating him into parts. Are you suggesting Owen wasn't using his powers?And it says "storing fragments". Not fragment.
Owen ripped him apart twice when using his powers. Sentry suckerpunched him like Doom here.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even Dr. Doom nearly killed Molecule Man by surprise in FF 318.This was "full power" molecule man too.
You wouldn't see Doom fans running around like idiots for this feat though.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Creel overpowered him and as said could do anything to him but resorted to just warp him in two parts.Owen ripped him apart twice when using his powers. Sentry suckerpunched him like Doom here.
Even if Creel did kill Sentry which he didn't and he couldn't do anyway it doesn't matter hugely for Creel. He can keep doing that but Robert will keep coming back again and again. Decent feat for Creel himself but in the scheme of things it doesn't impact Sentry much.
Do you still think he only had one fragment of a cosmic cube or fragments?
And I don't see how that Doom scene is relevant. Completely different situations first off and decades of time between the 2 occasions. Even at a base level in the Doom occasion he was relaxed completely whereas in the Sentry situation he was on high alert. Though he didn't see the Sentry coming straight away.
And even once Sentry had attacked him Owen still couldn't fight back against him. If Doom had replicated what Sentry did do you think Doom would have warped Owen into a werewolf and sent him away?
Imo they are very relevant to the thread for the following reasons
1 Creel was able to absorb from a cube which is supposed to be a source of power less evolved and powerful. As a side note, he wasn't able to feed from Sentry but that is not because Sentry is more powerful than a cube but because Sentry might have something that creel can't absorb and causes him "indigestion".
In any case the cube is supposed to be less than MM and yet he was helpless against the cube attack.
Showing again the mental state of Owen.
2 Owen being almost killed by Doom shows what has been said all along, that he is a glass cannon.
Being almost killed at full confidence by a surprise mugging speaks volumes of the power level or confidence he had during the colorado incident. And therefore easier to see why MM failed to kill Sentry when all along on the story the writer presents a MM with lack of confidence, full of guilt who wants to fail.
That is my take on it 🙂
I don't think this fight is a stomp in anyone's favor
Let's destroy Abhi's bullshit:
Originally posted by abhilegend
That's after he has been given Beyonders power. Before that he was pretty much a universal bomb at best and far below that pretty often.
Molecule Man never got any benefits of the powers of the Beyonders.
He was simply a conduct for their power to be channelled in another being whom can use it.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Even Dr. Doom nearly killed Molecule Man by surprise in FF 318.This was "full power" molecule man too.
You wouldn't see Doom fans running around like idiots for this feat though.
Like usual you are spreading bullshit on this forum to make your own twisted version of the story..
Molecule Man had deactivated his powers when Dr Doom attacked him.
That's why he didn't have the Molecule Man's marks on his face.
Even with that, his powers reactivated when Dr Doom attacked him and that saved him.
That means that Dr Doom attacked a depowered (on purpose because Owie wanted to have a normal life) Molecule Man and still failed to kill him.
Proof on panel:
Originally posted by abhilegend
This is what happens when Sentry meets someone actually using their reality warping powers. It happened AFTER Dark Avengers 12 where Sentry "defeated" Owen.Creel made sentry his ***** with just a fragment of cosmic cube.
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Again you are spreading more bullshit and self-made context:
Sentry fought Absorbing Man and kicked his ass in "Civil War: The Return #1 in 2007.
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=83109
Sentry destroyed Molecule Man and proved being the Most powerful man in existence in Dark Avengers #12 in 2009.
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=188170
More bullshit Abhi, your claims doesn't look ridiculous at all 😆
Let's make an exception.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Let's destroy Abhi's bullshit:Molecule Man never got any benefits of the powers of the Beyonders.
He was simply a conduct for their power to be channelled in another being whom can use it.
He stored their powers. Otherwise he is merely a universal bomb.
Like usual you are spreading bullshit on this forum to make your own twisted version of the story..
[B] Molecule Man had deactivated his powers when Dr Doom attacked him.
That's why he didn't have the Molecule Man's marks on his face.Even with that, his powers reactivated when Dr Doom attacked him and that saved him.
That's never even said that he Depowered himself.
That means that Dr Doom attacked a depowered (on purpose because Owie wanted to have a normal life) Molecule Man and still failed to kill him.
Proof on panel:
These don't even say what you are trying to say. Try again.
Again you are spreading more bullshit and self-made context:
Sentry fought Absorbing Man and kicked his ass in "Civil War: The Return #1 in 2007.
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=83109
Sentry destroyed Molecule Man and proved being the Most powerful man in existence in Dark Avengers #12 in 2009.
http://comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=188170
More bullshit Abhi, your claims doesn't look ridiculous at all 😆 [/B]
Oh you silly boy, these scans are from Mighty Avengers 33. One month later to Dark Avengers 12. In 2010 exactly.
http://ftp.comicbookdb.com/issue.php?ID=190002
Anything else you want to say?
Originally posted by One_Angry_Scot
Even if Creel did kill Sentry which he didn't and he couldn't do anyway it doesn't matter hugely for Creel. He can keep doing that but Robert will keep coming back again and again. Decent feat for Creel himself but in the scheme of things it doesn't impact Sentry much.
Except it doesn't works that way. Sentry was completely at mercy of Creel who literally ripped him in half.
Do you still think he only had one fragment of a cosmic cube or fragments?
It really does not matters. It's just a portion of power of a cosmic cube.
And I don't see how that Doom scene is relevant. Completely different situations first off and decades of time between the 2 occasions. Even at a base level in the Doom occasion he was relaxed completely whereas in the Sentry situation he was on high alert. Though he didn't see the Sentry coming straight away.
Even there his powers automatically saved him but he was lucky to be alive. As our friend RW showed us.
Owen can be defeated if taken by surprise. Otherwise Sentry gets ripped apart by Owen.
And even once Sentry had attacked him Owen still couldn't fight back against him. If Doom had replicated what Sentry did do you think Doom would have warped Owen into a werewolf and sent him away?
Sentry didn't warp Owen into a werewolf. He took control over his molecules by surprise, that's it.