Superman vs Sentry

Started by Impediment16 pages
Originally posted by -Pr-
You two should put each other on ignore if you can't get along.

Thank you.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
It is the norm to use current versions of the characters if not specified in the OP. I checked the rules and posted them here.

You don't understand.

That's the interpretation of the feats that only exist inside your head.

Nothing that you mentioned so far gives a single chance for Superman to beat Sentry.

On the other hand, Sentry can completely disintegrate Superman like he did to Molecule Man.

You have no counter to that and believed that you created a spite thread on purpose the other way around.

And I clarified what the OP meant. If you didn't know then you know now

So deliberate trolling from you still.

So you have nothing but to run from the facts you cannot refute.

You know nothing about these feats. Superman withstood magickal temporal devolution from elder god level Disciple in Primeevil. . Which transdimenional beings like New God and an Angel failed to. Superman is not a mentally weakened terrified physically human level being like Owen.

Don't post in this thread again troll.

Originally posted by panthergod
And I clarified what the OP meant. If you didn't know then you know now

So deliberate trolling from you still.

So you have nothing but to run from the facts you cannot refute.

You know nothing about these feats. Superman withstood magickal temporal devolution from elder god level Disciple in Primeevil. . Which transdimenional beings like New God and an Angel failed to. Superman is not a mentally weakened terrified physically human level being like Owen.

Don't post in this thread again troll.


Good luck with that. This is a public forum, just because you start a thread doesn't mean you're in charge of who can post in it. If you think he's trolling you can obvously file a report but that's about it. I'm only pointing it out to keep you from wasting your time trying to insist on such a thing. This kind of thing has come up before and the mods always say the same thing, anyone can post but if they actually break rules file a report and/or put them on ignore.

And RW isn't really worth the trouble tbh.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Sentry doesn't has molecular manipulation. Bendis said so and his word is law.

"Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn’t mean that he actually did."

http://www.cbr.com/storming-heaven-siege-4/

He didn't actually say that Sentry DIDN'T have molecular monipulation, he said it wasn't necessarily true. In fact he said that it may be true...

"I think we’ve all met crazy people in our lives, and I think you learn pretty quickly that when you’re dealing with a crazy person, you can’t trust what they’re saying to be true. Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn’t mean that he actually did. He just thought that he did. He was a crazy person and maybe a drug addict, as the character’s creator, Paul Jenkins, put out there. So not everything he was saying wasn’t necessarily true. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn’t. I know that’s difficult for some people, because when they read a story, they don’t want to feel like they’re being ****ed with. That character, though, was not in control of himself. There wasn’t one second throughout the run of “Dark Avengers” where he was in control of himself."

Originally posted by darthgoober
He didn't actually say that Sentry DIDN'T have molecular monipulation, he said it wasn't necessarily true. In fact he said that it may be true...

"I think we’ve all met crazy people in our lives, and I think you learn pretty quickly that when you’re dealing with a crazy person, you can’t trust what they’re saying to be true. Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn’t mean that he actually did. He just thought that he did. He was a crazy person and maybe a drug addict, as the character’s creator, Paul Jenkins, put out there. So not everything he was saying wasn’t necessarily true. [b]Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn’t. I know that’s difficult for some people, because when they read a story, they don’t want to feel like they’re being ****ed with. That character, though, was not in control of himself. There wasn’t one second throughout the run of “Dark Avengers” where he was in control of himself." [/B]


He is talking about everything Sentry said. He specifically says Sentry doesn't has Molecule man's power.

Learn how to read.

Originally posted by Enzeru
You haven't really provided anything, which debunks my statements. And youu haven't brought anything new to the table, which makes me think that Superman stands a chance. In the end of the day Supermans offensive options are punching hard and shooting laser beams out of his eyes. And none of those options are enough to stop the Sentry.

Oh I can provide a lot more but why bother with you?

Funny, Superman can just ko or kill the Sentry like Exitar did with a planet destroying blast.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is talking about everything Sentry said. He specifically says Sentry doesn't has Molecule man's power.

Learn how to read.


He never said that he doesn't have Molecule Man's power, feel free to point out his specifically saying that. He said maybe Sentry's statements were true, maybe they weren't. He didn't take a definitive stance on the matter. He's basically leaving the development of Sentry's powers to other writers to pin down.

It says 'not everything he says is true. maybe it is maybe it isn't" when talking about him throughout that arc.

But to that question specifically the answer was "He just thought he did."

Originally posted by darthgoober
He never said that he doesn't have Molecule Man's power, feel free to point out his specifically saying that. He said maybe Sentry's statements were true, maybe they weren't. He didn't take a definitive stance on the matter. He's basically leaving the development of Sentry's powers to other writers to pin down.

What part of this do you not able to understand?

"Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn’t mean that he actually did."

He is taking a definite stand. And he is the only writer who has written Sentry with molecule manipulation. He is ambivalent about everything else.

Originally posted by Juntai
It says 'not everything he says is true. maybe it is maybe it isn't" when talking about him throughout that arc.

But to that question specifically the answer was "He just thought he did."


Him saying "He just thought he did" was simply him further expanding on his previous sentence saying that him saying it "doesn't mean he actually did". He was explaining why Sentry's statement wasn't necessarily true, he never actually says that Sentry's statement was false.

Originally posted by abhilegend
What part of this do you not able to understand?

"Just because the Sentry/The Void announced that he had the power of the Molecule Man, it doesn’t mean that he actually did."

He is taking a definite stand. And he is the only writer who has written Sentry with molecule manipulation. He is ambivalent about everything else.


No, that's not a definitive stance. Especially when he goes on to say that maybe Sentry's statements are true, maybe they're not.

Originally posted by abhilegend
He is talking about everything Sentry said. He specifically says Sentry doesn't has Molecule man's power.

Learn how to read.

What exactly does "Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn’t" mean to you?

LOL! Abhi argues that Sentry does not have molecular manipulation, yet says that Bendis is the only writer to write him with molecular manipulation.

Originally posted by darthgoober
No, that's not a definitive stance. Especially when he goes on to say that maybe Sentry's statements are true, maybe they're not.

For all the other things. Not for his molecular manipulation though.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
What exactly does "Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn’t" mean to you?
Originally posted by TheHulkster
LOL! Abhi argues that Sentry does not have molecular manipulation, yet says that Bendis is the only writer to write him with molecular manipulation.

That you should learn how to read and comprehend first? My whole point is Bendis is a fickle writer and says a lot of things which never show print.

I don't think it should really matter, the whole thing with Molecule Man was completely confusing

From having Owen on such a damaged mental state in which he subconsciously wanted to fail to Sentry being crazy thinking that he may or may not have MM powers.

For all we know he might as well just accelerated MM's molecules to make him explode or he might have had the power of MM but it is so ambiguous that we might never know and Bendis giving that piss poor answer really didn't help either side.

Sentry is a lot stronger than all of the heroes on Earth combined, which isn't the case with Superman.

Sentry can stop a being as powerful as Exitar, despite the Celestial being more powerful than the 4th Celestial where a single member like Ahrishem make the 3 most powerful Skyfathers (Odin, Zeus and Vishnu) looks like insects.

Sentry gostomps Superman.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
LOL! Abhi argues that Sentry does not have molecular manipulation, yet says that Bendis is the only writer to write him with molecular manipulation.

Brian Michael Bendis talks about Sentry's power set:

Bendis: "We've now unveiled all of our cards - about who the Sentry is and what his powers are. We've unveiled in Dark Avengers #12 that the Sentry, on top of his powers, has powers like the Molecule Man. He actually has the ability to craft / to form a reality from a molecular level. And that's where his powers have come from. [...] And there is no limit to the power level that he has."

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6AzWzxcV74
(Starts at 2:05)

DC released stats for the hero's and villains and did one on Superman...

Since this was officially created by the DC crew, would this be considered as a canon bio for the character?

Originally posted by carver9
DC released stats for the hero's and villains and did one on Superman...

Since this was officially created by the DC crew, would this be considered as a canon bio for the character?