Originally posted by Silent MasterIt's not really a strawman when the Frost Giants would have to be somewhat comparable to what Diana has dealt with to even warrant their mention. If they are so far below what she's dealt with, why did you bring them up?
Strawman. nice try though, at least you got TI's sock account to laugh.
You should give this one up. You just look really stupid.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It's not really a strawman when the Frost Giants would have to be somewhat comparable to what Diana has dealt with to even warrant their mention. If they are so far below what she's dealt with, why did you bring them up?You should give this one up. You just look really stupid.
I already said that WW wins, I brought the Frost Giants up to counter the idea that the Destroyer was weak offensively.
Originally posted by Silent MasterIt is weak offensively, compared to Diana and the foes she's fought. Diana slashing something with her sword by feats is far more impressive than anything the Destroyer has shown, based on her cutting Doomsday's arm off. It is similarly below Ares and Doomsday.
I already said that WW wins, I brought the Frost Giants up to counter the idea that the Destroyer was weak offensively.
So what exactly are you comparing it to? Normal unarmed human beings? mmm
I don't think anyone (or more importantly, carthage) would dispute that, if that is what you are comparing its offensive output to. "Weak" is a subjective term, inherently relative to a baseline. Using Diana and friends as the baseline, the Destroyer's offensive power is certainly weak. Using a human being, it's not, but no one in this thread would do that. That would be dumb.
So what were you using as your arbitrary baseline in an attempt to #gottem carthage?
Bunch of points here:
1. Diana did not take on Doomsday alone. Did not defeat him on her own. To be honest, they probably wouldn't have defeated Doomsday had it not been for the kryptonite spear.
2. Diana is supposedly built specifically to kill Ares. I don't know exactly what that entails, but we can't assume she's as effective against other superpowers as she was against Ares.
3. She struggled against Ares.
In comparison:
4. Frost Giants are roughly as tough as Asgardians, maybe more. This is considering that Loki, a frost giant runt, has never been discovered to be anything more than Asgardian and has numerous durability feats like taking gunshots to the face and others.
5. The Destroyer disintegrated frost giants with absolute ease.
Now I'm not saying the Destroyer armor wins, but disintegrating those Frost giants shouldn't be something that's to be dismissed lightly. Destroyer definitely has more offensive output than Diana. What he lacks is feats, which is why it's hard to say if he can win this match or not.
Originally posted by NemeBro
It is weak offensively, compared to Diana and the foes she's fought. Diana slashing something with her sword by feats is far more impressive than anything the Destroyer has shown, based on her cutting Doomsday's arm off. It is similarly below Ares and Doomsday.So what exactly are you comparing it to? Normal unarmed human beings? mmm
I don't think anyone (or more importantly, carthage) would dispute that, if that is what you are comparing its offensive output to. "Weak" is a subjective term, inherently relative to a baseline. Using Diana and friends as the baseline, the Destroyer's offensive power is certainly weak. Using a human being, it's not, but no one in this thread would do that. That would be dumb.
So what were you using as your arbitrary baseline in an attempt to #gottem carthage?
He didn't say anything about "in comparison" in the post I responded to. Also, A nuke might be weak compared to a supernova, but only a biased moron would call a nuke weak.