Which Earthbound Marvel heroes could replicate these feats?

Started by celeyhyga173 pages

Originally posted by zopzop
I know he never lifted Manhattan, he 'pulled' it but that feat has been debunked. There's nothing in your post aside from hyperbole (even if it isn't it's a shared feat with Thor) and being compared to Thor in strength despite the fact that his on panel showings don't back that up. He's been around since the 70s and had his own series that ran over 120+ issues. There's got to be something you can post?

Sentry lifted a cruise ship (?), he could do it.


Hmm.. Interesting u found that to be hyperbole considering it was pretty specific on the amount of pressure being generated. If it said they were generating the "pressure of a thousand planets" or "force of a hundred supernovas" then I'd be inclined to call it as such.

This is hyperbole.
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11126/111260040/4893798-4778817085-thor-.jpg

You see, I've always been a huge fan of Hercules all the way back to the days of a 220V Electric socket stunning him, thing is, when he does Thor lite feats, I always think of all the times he has had problems and when he does anything outlying I see it as poor writing. I admit I'm a little biased against him in terms of how powerful I see him. Personally, my own view is he is somewhere very near Simon Williams give or take. It has at times taken very little to put him down and he has a lot of low showings.

Hulk and an amped Ironman fought and their fight split New York in half. Guess who was there to pull the city back together?

This should end your debate.

Luke Cage.

If the carrier owed him money.

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk and an amped Ironman fought and their fight split New York in half. Guess who was there to pull the city back together?

This should end your debate.

Not really, static strength is completely different to throwing and punching. Hence people who are good at plyometrics are often not as good at deadlifts and vice versa.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Not really, static strength is completely different to throwing and punching. Hence people who are good at plyometrics are often not as good at deadlifts and vice versa.

So pulling a city together isn't enough to prove he could throw a ship? Really????????

Originally posted by carver9
So pulling a city together isn't enough to prove he could throw a ship? Really????????
No, a better one to prove he could do that would be his first mini series where he throws the Space ship into orbit using the refueling cables and saves everyone. The slightly out of context scan you used doesn't cut it. Yeah, he could do the ship one no doubt, the extinction level strike? Not so much.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
We know Sentry struggles with Hellicarriers, so he ain't doing it.

Shame on a hero trying to save lives.

"What would people say if they knew you ran this ship aground to avoid lifting it, thereby killing all on board?"

Same difference

Originally posted by tkitna
Shame on a hero trying to save lives.

"What would people say if they knew you ran this ship aground to avoid lifting it, thereby killing all on board?"

Same difference

Yeah, the second mini I think had his best quantifiable feats. Terrax etc. Although Supes lifts ships and still saves them...

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
You see, I've always been a huge fan of Hercules all the way back to the days of a 220V Electric socket stunning him, thing is, when he does Thor lite feats, I always think of all the times he has had problems and when he does anything outlying I see it as poor writing. I admit I'm a little biased against him in terms of how powerful I see him. Personally, my own view is he is somewhere very near Simon Williams give or take. It has at times taken very little to put him down and he has a lot of low showings.

I think your wrong. Namor admitted Herc was stronger than him even underwater and I believe it was Janet that said Herc was the most powerful Avenger ever and she was on teams with Thor and Hulk. He's up there for sure.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Yeah, the second mini I think had his best quantifiable feats. Terrax etc. Although Supes lifts ships and still saves them...

DC is less realistic. The ship would crumble.

Originally posted by tkitna
I think your wrong. Namor admitted Herc was stronger than him even underwater and I believe it was Janet that said Herc was the most powerful Avenger ever and she was on teams with Thor and Hulk. He's up there for sure.

Fair enough, we'll agree to differ, personally, I think Hulk has greater potential to be called strongest Avenger ever more than most, I also think Gilgamesh and Thor are both above Hercules. Janet, now she needs a slap for that comment...

Originally posted by tkitna
DC is less realistic. The ship would crumble.
Pretty sure many ships have been lifted in Marvel, I can think of Namor, Airwalker, and Hulk for three where the ships haven't crumbled.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
Pretty sure many ships have been lifted in Marvel, I can think of Namor, Airwalker, and Hulk for three where the ships haven't crumbled.

Yeah I know (heck I posted a scan of the Sentry doing it and the ship didn't crumble), but the point was that everybody dumps on the Helicarrier feat and there was a reason for it and it was explained. A being that can take down an Island and Asgard has a problem with a helicarrier? No. He tried to ease it down due to the people inside.

Originally posted by tkitna
Yeah I know (heck I posted a scan of the Sentry doing it and the ship didn't crumble), but I point was that everybody dumps on the Helicarrier feat and there was a reason for it and it was explained.
The helicarrier feat is different as it is in the air though and he needs Wondy and Ms. M to help him. IT's not falling apart at any point.

Herc > Gilgamesh

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Herc > Gilgamesh
When they fought way back when in Thor, do I remember Herc knocked him out or am I imagining that. It was when Zeus and Odin led the Olympians to Olympia where Thor was. It's so long since I read it. Gilgamesh changed a lot after that, his senses got better he no longer needed Puck as his eyes, he got levitation and he got eye beams. In his run, in the Avengers he was considered the strongest of all Avengers too.

Originally posted by Steve Zodiac
When they fought way back when in Thor, do I remember Herc knocked him out or am I imagining that. It was when Zeus and Odin led the Olympians to Olympia where Thor was. It's so long since I read it. Gilgamesh changed a lot after that, his senses got better he no longer needed Puck as his eyes, he got levitation and he got eye beams. In his run, in the Avengers he was considered the strongest of all Avengers too.

I don't think Forgotten One was koed.

Thor was clearly superior. When Herc gets compares to Thor, it's almost always a toss up.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I don't think Forgotten One was koed.

Thor was clearly superior. When Herc gets compares to Thor, it's almost always a toss up.

Pretty sure Herc knocked him down... my memory may be playing up. Might be a scan somewhere, I'll look tomorrow. The Thor fight though on the Celestial ship was weird, and that was the character but not the Gilgamesh in Avengers, if you see what I mean, by the time he was an Avenger he was much more powerful imo and he gave Thor problems on the Celestial ship. That run was the best Thor run of all time for me.

Forgotten One was amped by TOAA celestial.

Gilgamesh in the Avengers was less powerful as he no longer had the amp.

Read the recent Herc run. Herc > Gil in that portrayal.