Channelling a power source that has twice as much mass (and all things being equal, has twice as much energy).
Am saying that the two feats are not equal. Channeling the power of a whole chicken, vs a nugget. Or in this case, two nuggets.
Edit: but you're right. Vega is 40 times brighter than our Sun, so it's kicking out 40 times more light energy.
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol channeling power of the Sun check
Is it enough to injure Anti Monitor?
No, it is not.
space cheese being able to casually destroy a world as proven by the Maker check
Meaningless without some comparison.
irrelevant statement about power levels or whatever checked by having the same threat level classification as Blue Marvel.
Now if only Blue Marvel was someone impressive.
He isn't even the most powerful being in Ultimates. Carol is stated above him in the same book.
So I'm still waiting on these "way better feats in every way." By the was some of these was done when she was going by Photon or Pulsar, where she wasn't nearly as powerful as she is now.
When she wasn't as powerful as now she was handily beaten by Ms Marvel. Even at full power Iron man has absorbed her twice.
Light absorbs her power easily.
I don't know all that much about light, but whether or not he could just toy with him at his whim would depend on whether or not hi control extends beyond forms of actual light because Monica can become other forms of energy as well. If he can then I could totally see him winning, but if he's unable to control all the forms of energy that she can transform into I see her having a chance. The girl has a brain, if she knows she's going up against someone who controls light I don't see her transforming into light right out of the gate.
Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't know all that much about light, but whether or not he could just toy with him at his whim would depend on whether or not hi control extends beyond forms of actual light because Monica can become other forms of energy as well. If he can then I could totally see him winning, but if he's unable to control all the forms of energy that she can transform into I see her having a chance. The girl has a brain, if she knows she's going up against someone who controls light I don't see her transforming into light right out of the gate.
http://i.imgur.com/34KrqqP.png
Spectrum can't even hope to compete.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Light has outright stripped Wonder Girl's magical lightning out of her lasso.http://i.imgur.com/34KrqqP.png
Spectrum can't even hope to compete.
Originally posted by Zack M
Arthur has controlled green lanterns, magic, etc... This isn't a stomp in anyones favor like Gloricus has said.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Is it enough to injure Anti Monitor?No, it is not.
lol She even says "I could not have absorb another erg of power." And she was struggling and straining the entire time plus backed up by a freaking who's who of Heralds including your boy Superman. lol
You really think Monica couldn't that with that team as support. lol again
Meaningless without some comparison.
exactly, just like whatever statement was made about the Ray.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Now if only Blue Marvel was someone impressive.
Why I'm shocked that you of all people would find a Marvel character unimpressive. Maybe if his name was Super Blue Marvel Man.
Originally posted by abhilegend
He isn't even the most powerful being in Ultimates. Carol is stated above him in the same book.When she wasn't as powerful as now she was handily beaten by Ms Marvel. Even at full power Iron man has absorbed her twice.
Light absorbs her power easily.
When has Carol even beaten Monica? And what issue was in stated that Carol was above Blue?
As for Ironman he needed Scarlet Witch hax power to absorb Spectrum momentarily, and she still broke free and said that it wouldn't work again.
How many times have Dr Light been absorbed/trapped inside a GL's battery? And recently killed by heat vision then resurrected. He hasn't shown anything close to his Pre 52 manipulation powers.
Originally posted by Supermutant
lol She even says "I could not have absorb another erg of power." And she was struggling and straining the entire time plus backed up by a freaking who's who of Heralds including your boy Superman. lol
And she did more damage to him than they did.
You really think Monica couldn't that with that team as support. lol again
No, I don't. She has no showings on that magnitude.
exactly, just like whatever statement was made about the Ray.
Except those were shown to be true too in that story.
Why I'm shocked that you of all people would find a Marvel character unimpressive. Maybe if his name was Super Blue Marvel Man.
I find marvel characters impressive when they have done something impressive. Just like DC characters.
When has Carol even beaten Monica?
Starblast 2 IIRC.
And what issue was in stated that Carol was above Blue?
Ultimates-2 IIRC. Carol is noted to be the mightiest hero while Adam is present.
As for Ironman he needed Scarlet Witch hax power to absorb Spectrum momentarily, and she still broke free and said that it wouldn't work again.
That only means his armor was not as powerful as before.
Here Tony straight up beats her.
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Fights%20A-F/IronManvsCaptainMarvel05WCAAnnual2.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Iron%20Man%20Fights%20A-F/IronManvsCaptainMarvel06.jpg
And years later straight up absorbs her.
How many times have Dr Light been absorbed/trapped inside a GL's battery? And recently killed by heat vision then resurrected. He hasn't shown anything close to his Pre 52 manipulation powers.
Are you comparing Hal Jordan to Iron man or Carol Danvers?
😂
Originally posted by abhilegend
And she did more damage to him than they did.No, I don't. She has no showings on that magnitude.
That's not even a big deal in the right context. She was created to stop the Anti-Monitor, so she should be able to hurt him. This is no difference than Drax hurting/killing Thanos who is many times way more powerful than him. But Drax is his specific silver bullet (weakness), so is Female Light to the Anti-monitor provided she receives a massive amp and a squadron of the best Heralds for support. So yeah to use your phrase, I'm not impressed. Or at best its less impressive, and certainly not anything above current Spectrum's abilities in a similar scenario.
This compares nicely with many less heralds. Visibly hurting Galactus and forcing him back.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Except those were shown to be true too in that story.
Doubtful at best and still doesn't prove much. Who was even on this JLA team with Ray?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I find marvel characters impressive when they have done something impressive. Just like DC characters.
Unbiased posters recognize what Blue Marvel is capable of like stalemating Sentry and beating King Hyperion.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Starblast 2 IIRC.
Wrong, most of that comic was Gladiator vs Quasar. Binary and Cap Marvel was on the same side. And Cap Marvel (Monica) absorbed light from Imperial Guard member Manta and then beat her. As far as I know, Carol and Monica have never fought, however they have combined into one being to defeat an enemy.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Ultimates-2 IIRC. Carol is noted to be the mightiest hero while Adam is present.
Even if true means nothing really. Al Ewing stated that Monica was even more powerful than Blue Marvel. But feats >>>>> statements so not important and irrelevant.
Originally posted by abhilegend
That only means his armor was not as powerful as before.
lol You do realize that your old scans shows a much weaker Monica. They even mentions that Monica was new to the Avengers and didn't even know what Ironman could do. Also she didn't want to hurt him in your scans, and has shut-down his systems w/out even wanting or trying too lol.
But yeah Tony in much better upgraded armor needed Scarlet Witch's aid and still Spectrum broke free w/out any signs of fatigue or injury. lol @ trying to lowball and show a weaker and very inexperience Monica being absorbed. That's like showing and old scan of the Invisible Woman who could barely use her powers w/out fainting and pretending that modern Sue who has block Galactus attacks with her shields is still at that early very weak level.
If I wanted to low ball I could act like Dr. Light is still at the same level where a parademon could shoot him dead with one shot. lol
And just to reiterate Kang's absorption abilities/tech >>>Ironman's
Monica has easily bypass his shield and fried his circuits.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Are you comparing Hal Jordan to Iron man or Carol Danvers?
😂
Are you stating that Dr Light can't be overloaded, trapped, or absorbed?
Originally posted by Supermutant
That's not even a big deal in the right context. She was created to stop the Anti-Monitor, so she should be able to hurt him.
This is no difference than Drax hurting/killing Thanos who is many times way more powerful than him. But Drax is his specific silver bullet (weakness), so is Female Light to the Anti-monitor provided she receives a massive amp and a squadron of the best Heralds for support.
This is straight making shit up.
Can you show us where Kimiyo is supposed to be kryptonite to Anti Monitor ala Drax vs Thanos?
So yeah to use your phrase, I'm not impressed. Or at best its less impressive, and certainly not anything above current Spectrum's abilities in a similar scenario.
Could you show us where she managed to do anything remotely as impressive?
This is all talk and no show.
This compares nicely with many less heralds. Visibly hurting Galactus and forcing him back.
Except Anti Monitor is several magnitude above someone like Galactus.
Try something else.
Doubtful at best and still doesn't prove much. Who was even on this JLA team with Ray?
Bloodwynd aka an amped J'onn, Wonder Woman and Superman was also mentioned as a potential for the most powerful member. Ray was chosen as the most powerful.
Unbiased posters recognize what Blue Marvel is capable of like stalemating Sentry and beating King Hyperion.
Sentry is fluctuating at best. King Hyperion got his shit pushed in by a depowered Juggernaut.
His own creator said he is weaker than Thor.
Wrong, most of that comic was Gladiator vs Quasar. Binary and Cap Marvel was on the same side. And Cap Marvel (Monica) absorbed light from Imperial Guard member Manta and then beat her. As far as I know, Carol and Monica have never fought, however they have combined into one being to defeat an enemy.
Wrong again.
http://readcomiconline.to/Comic/Starblast/Issue-1?id=78685
Read the comic.
Even if true means nothing really. Al Ewing stated that Monica was even more powerful than Blue Marvel. But feats >>>>> statements so not important and irrelevant.
For that to be effective, Blue Marvel isn't a good enough benchmark. He is dependent on other characters himself for his reputation.
lol You do realize that your old scans shows a much weaker Monica. They even mentions that Monica was new to the Avengers and didn't even know what Ironman could do. Also she didn't want to hurt him in your scans, and has shut-down his systems w/out even wanting or trying too lol.
Yeah, she is real competitive with a mid tier Ironman.
Light is transmuting herald level beings like Energy Superman meanwhile.
Energy Superman is more powerful than Spectrum by any measure.
But yeah Tony in much better upgraded armor needed Scarlet Witch's aid and still Spectrum broke free w/out any signs of fatigue or injury. lol @ trying to lowball and show a weaker and very inexperience Monica being absorbed. That's like showing and old scan of the Invisible Woman who could barely use her powers w/out fainting and pretending that modern Sue who has block Galactus attacks with her shields is still at that early very weak level.
Except Endo Sym wasn't that impressive. He straight up said he had no chance against She Hulk in a straight up fight when he has knocked out Shulkie previously with one punch.
Sue has been acknowledged as more powerful than before after Malice incident. Monica isn't.
If I wanted to low ball I could act like Dr. Light is still at the same level where a parademon could shoot him dead with one shot. lol
All of his bad showings are retconned as due to Zatanna mindwiping him.
And just to reiterate Kang's absorption abilities/tech >>>Ironman's
Proof for this?
Monica has easily bypass his shield and fried his circuits.
Yeah, she has great odds against mid tiered Kang and Iron man. Good luck with that.
Are you stating that Dr Light can't be overloaded, trapped, or absorbed?
By Spectrum? Not a chance.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Channelling a power source that has twice as much mass (and all things being equal, has twice as much energy).Am saying that the two feats are not equal. Channeling the power of a whole chicken, vs a nugget. Or in this case, two nuggets.
Edit: but you're right. Vega is 40 times brighter than our Sun, so it's kicking out 40 times more light energy.
Dr. Light has to be LEGIT Trans Tier. Jeezus.
