Zealot Vs Shang-Chi

Originally posted by Digi
Na

Spider-Man, the Authority, Alan Scott (pre-FP JSA as a whole), Doctor Who, The Tick, He-Man, Adam Warlock, Death's Head (both I and II), Kingpin, off the top of my head.

There's the "I know more about them than most, so I can defend them better" phenomenon, which has been true for me on occasion. I've argued for all of those characters in numerous threads. But I also can cite specific instances where I was on the opposite side, or where I was advocating for a less generous interpretation of a feat, and it was in threads where there was a reasonable case to be made for either combatant or side. Most of those listed are interesting to me because of who they are (Spider-Man) or what they represent (Doctor Who), or the unique ways they can affect a story (Warlock, Kingpin, Authority). Or because they're just fun (He-Man, Tick, Death's Head). So I'll geek out at a huge Spidey or Alan feat, for example, but that's never been why I'm into them.

Alan Scott and Warlock are two characters who desperately need the spotlight. Parker is cool but im kinda meh about him at the moment. I feel like there are too many spider people running around.

Originally posted by StyleTime
His pick, of course, isn't in doubt. Zealot's a beast. I'm just saying it's not a stomp, like the usual full-powered Grifter vs a street or something.

It's a just a super good MAist vs another one here. The margin of victory for either won't be large.

Chi is not even remotely in her ballpark tho

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Alan Scott and Warlock are two characters who desperately need the spotlight. Parker is cool but im kinda meh about him at the moment. I feel like there are too many spider people running around.

Chi is not even remotely in her ballpark tho

Shangs no Iron Fist.

His chi only amps his stats a little, not stop speeding locomotives or tank a sniper round to the chest.

Shang took a hit from Hiroim while your Danny almost died because of getting casually thrown by Ares...

But seriously now, how is Danny going to fight Shang? I thought IF's back got broken for good 🙂

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Shang took a hit from Hiroim while your Danny almost died because of getting casually thrown by Ares...

But seriously now, how is Danny going to fight Shang? I thought IF's back got broken for good 🙂

Shang has been getting shit on for awhile. He shouldnt be in team books at all.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Shang took a hit from Hiroim while your Danny almost died because of getting casually thrown by Ares...

But seriously now, how is Danny going to fight Shang? I thought IF's back got broken for good 🙂

Well, if it's happening in his solo, I know his Iron Fist is on the fritz, at least.

Normally he could just heal up any injury.

Originally posted by cdtm
Well, if it's happening in his solo, I know his Iron Fist is on the fritz, at least.

Normally he could just heal up any injury.

U dare doubt me? 😛

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Alan Scott and Warlock are two characters who desperately need the spotlight. Parker is cool but im kinda meh about him at the moment. I feel like there are too many spider people running around.

Alan's had plenty of chance to shine, but I agree about Warlock. He hasn't really been written well since the 80's-era Starlin stuff.

It's easy to agree that there are too many "spider" characters. But that's not Pete's fault, it's everyone else's. He's the original. It's even a running joke for him; he'll encounter someone with spider powers and be like "What should your name be? Scarlet Spider? No, wait, that's taken. Spider Girl? Crap, also taken..." Or something like "Another one of you?! Lemme guess, you're a clone of a simulacrum. I knew I should've copyrighted my name." Sh*t like that.

Originally posted by Digi
Alan's had plenty of chance to shine, but I agree about Warlock. He hasn't really been written well since the 80's-era Starlin stuff.

It's easy to agree that there are too many "spider" characters. But that's not Pete's fault, it's everyone else's. He's the original. It's even a running joke for him; he'll encounter someone with spider powers and be like "What should your name be? Scarlet Spider? No, wait, that's taken. Spider Girl? Crap, also taken..." Or something like "Another one of you?! Lemme guess, you're a clone of a simulacrum. I knew I should've copyrighted my name." Sh*t like that.

Originally posted by darthgoober
The Infinity War and Crusade both took place in the 90s though. He's not one to rack up a lot of feats, but he's had some great stories going for him.

Yeah, I didn't bother to check the dates, but I figured the last of the "Infinity {word}" stories might have been early 90s. That's still 25 years ago, though, so my point stands.

The last have technically been Infinity and Infinity Finale, lol.

You have Warlock sucking Thanus' cock there, other than that don't recall him doing anything memorable.

Originally posted by Digi
Alan's had plenty of chance to shine, but I agree about Warlock. He hasn't really been written well since the 80's-era Starlin stuff.

It's easy to agree that there are too many "spider" characters. But that's not Pete's fault, it's everyone else's. He's the original. It's even a running joke for him; he'll encounter someone with spider powers and be like "What should your name be? Scarlet Spider? No, wait, that's taken. Spider Girl? Crap, also taken..." Or something like "Another one of you?! Lemme guess, you're a clone of a simulacrum. I knew I should've copyrighted my name." Sh*t like that.

Yea someone did tell me Scott had an ongoing. And youre right about Parker

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Yea someone did tell me Scott had an ongoing. And youre right about Parker

Well, Alan was consistently touted as the "big gun" of the pre-FP JSA, so he's had more recent, excellent arcs written about him. There were also a handful of JSA Classified issues in the 2000's that were great, many that included him. So I will always agree that he deserves the spotlight...I think he's a great character. But he's gotten more recent love than, say, Warlock. Stilt correctly mentioned some more recent arcs with Warlock, but the last time I was interested in Warlock was from those 80s and early 90s arcs. So he's hurting. Alan at least still has some mystique about him.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Chi is not even remotely in her ballpark tho