Originally posted by Rockydonovang
I hate the direction of this trilogy but given where it's going,Luke's main opponent should be himself and how he uses his immense power, not whether his immense power is sufficient to stop smoke.
Whoa... how can Luke stop smoke? Smoke can be formed in many different situations: an exploding starship, an exploding gunship, some lost travelers making a fire, a corpse after it was blown up by a thermal detonator or rocket launcher, and many others. Luke cannot stop those in the galaxy. Luke, no matter how powerful he is, cannot stop smoke 🙂
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Whoa... how can Luke stop smoke? Smoke can be formed in many different situations: an exploding starship, an exploding gunship, some lost travelers making a fire, a corpse after it was blown up by a thermal detonator or rocket launcher, and many others. Luke cannot stop those in the galaxy. Luke, no matter how powerful he is, cannot stop smoke 🙂
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Why am I Erkan tier? Because I am a Maul supporter?Even if I was an "Erkan tier" it would be sufficient ground to put me far above you.
The good news is unlike erkan you're a rookie and you can definitely become better. I was once erkan tier, and I'm now a bit better than that.
The first step in improving is realizing you're not that great.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
You're erkan tier coz like him you constantly rely on unsubstantiated speculation, persist with contradicted assertions, constantly engage in fallacies, and usually fail to fully respond to your opponent's points attacking straw men instead. You also have a total unwillingness to concede even when it's clear you're wrong.The good news is unlike erkan you're a rookie and you can definitely become better. I was once erkan tier, and I'm now a bit better than that.
The first step in improving is realizing you're not that great.
Unsubstantiated speculation. Alright. Unsubstantiated speculation supported by canonical sources is unsubstantiated speculation. Absolutely true.
And I rarely persist with contradicted assertions. Most of my assertions are true. Just because they don't lowball Maul to death or don't bend the knee to Ahsoka/Vader doesn't mean they are always untrue. Sorry, but that's the reality. Not everything is made to worship Tano or Vader, nor to bash the hell out of Maul.
Why do I fully fail to respond to my opponent's points? Tell me: why?
And I don't concede when I'm not wrong. If I am wrong, I concede. If I am not wrong, I do not concede. Now you want me to concede even when I'm stopping filthy lowballing towards one character? That's not something I plan on doing. If you got a problem with that, just tell me.
I realize I'm not top tier nor the greatest, but I know I'm not utter crap. So I've done the first step to becoming better. Tell me, o wise master, what is the next step? Spit on Maul's face? Bend the knee to Lord Vader? Buy flowers for Lady Tano?
Originally posted by thesithmaster
Three > might be too much, but at least Erkan doesn't do everything within his reach to lowball a single character while wanking the freaking hell out of two others with laughable arguments. Which is something the other guy does at every turn.
And speaking of two characters being wanked to an unreasonable degree, I think maul and oppress qualify.
Unsurprisingly, you rate debaters based on where they place maul, not based on how well they argue
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
Erkan doesn't lowball the heck out of one character, but many of them.And speaking of two characters being wanked to an unreasonable degree, I think maul and oppress qualify.
Unsurprisingly, you rate debaters based on where they place maul, not based on how well they argue
Such as? Which characters does Erkan lowball?
And he doesn't wank Opress. Yeah, sure, he places Maul far too high, but he doesn't wank Savage.
And I don't rate debaters where they put Maul. If they pathetically lowball him, I'm not gonna rate them very highly. But this doesn't apply to Maul only. Maul just happens to be lowballed a lot.
Originally posted by Rockydonovang
lets see luke win something for once.