Originally posted by SSJGGogetaHe certainly didn't "tank" the Hakai, but Freeza still has the best raw durability in the franchise... Surviving the Hakai just helps solidify that. 👆
Hey, you can't say he didn't do pretty damn good though. He might've ended up exactly like he did on Namek(same eye closed and everything), but he tanked a Hakai from a powerful GoD and still wanted to fight.
Originally posted by Ridley_Prime
Still feel kinda cheated out of the buildup for Frieza. I mean, wasn't expecting him to change much as a character, but all that time he was saving and conserving energy (even holding out on Gohan with the laser cage like one could argue) just feels for naught now after what happened in ep 125...
Well he thought he was better than everyone, but when push came to shove that was quick to turn around in the previous eps.
Originally posted by Inedian...So like I said, that scene is a huge testament to Freeza's durability. Toppo intended the Hakai to incapacitate Freeza for the remainder of the ToP. It didn't.
Nope... because Toppo didn't want to kill Frieza with Hakai. Toppo was just surpised Frieza came back, he thought he gave him Hakai that will make Frieza stay uncousciousness.
Originally posted by InedianIt was a double-KO -- Freeza KO'd Goku; Goku KO'd Freeza... Regardless, being KO'd by an all-out punch from FPSSB Goku certainly doesn't diminish the fact that Freeza has the best raw durability in the series.
Nah... he was knocked out against SSB Goku in episode 95. Nothing special about that Hakai.
*I'm talking pound-for-pound, of course. Obviously more powerful characters are going to have better durability, because in DBZ/DBS, power and durability go hand-in-hand.
Nothing special about the Hakai, eh? Lol, now I know you're just trolling. 👆
Originally posted by Galan007
It was a double-KO -- Freeza KO'd Goku; Goku KO'd Freeza... Regardless, being KO'd by an all-out punch from FPSSB Goku certainly doesn't diminish the fact that Freeza has the best raw durability in the series.*I'm talking pound-for-pound, of course. Obviously more powerful characters are going to have better durability, because in DBZ/DBS, power and durability go hand-in-hand.
Nothing special about the Hakai, eh? Lol, now I know you're just trolling. 👆
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Originally posted by Galan007
He certainly didn't "tank" the Hakai, but Freeza still has the best raw durability in the franchise... Surviving the Hakai just helps solidify that. 👆
Awe yeah, for sure. I meant survive, more than tank anyways, haha.
I totally agree though. Pound for pound, Frieza has far and away the best durability of biological beings in the series.
Originally posted by Galan007
It was a double-KO -- Freeza KO'd Goku; Goku KO'd Freeza... Regardless, being KO'd by an all-out punch from FPSSB Goku certainly doesn't diminish the fact that Freeza has the best raw durability in tge seties.
I know it was a double KO, and it does diminish the fact, because it confirms that Goku and Frieza durability was on par (Whis also conirmed it that they were equal).
Nah, his durability is not the best. There is also Buu.
Originally posted by Inedian
I know it was a double KO, and it does diminish the fact, because it confirms that Goku and Frieza durability was on par (Whis also conirmed it that they were equal).Nah, his durability is not the best. There is also Buu.
Uh, that doesn't change the fact that Frieza has the best pound for pound durability of the series. He was beaten up by SSJ Goku, cut in half, blasted into the ground by SSJ Goku with a blast that Goku thought killed him, and then stranded on Namek while it exploded on top of him, and left in outer space for an undefined period of time before being rescued.
Name one character that could survive all of that, while weakened, and without having regeneration.
Btw, regeneration =/= durability. Durability refers to how much you can take without being affected/injured. Buu has low durability, and can be injured by even spears and shit. It just so happens that he can regenerate from anything short of destruction of his very matter itself, or purification. If he couldn't regenerate, he'd be dead from half the shit Frieza has taken. As far as we know, the same goes for Cell too, though it's possible that he could take as much as Frieza, simply because he was made from Frieza's cells.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
Uh, that doesn't change the fact that Frieza has the best pound for pound durability of the series. He was beaten up by SSJ Goku, cut in half, blasted into the ground by SSJ Goku with a blast that Goku thought killed him, and then stranded on Namek while it exploded on top of him, and left in outer space for an undefined period of time before being rescued.Name one character that could survive all of that, while weakened, and without having regeneration.
Btw, regeneration =/= durability. Durability refers to how much you can take without being affected/injured. Buu has low durability, and can be injured by even spears and shit. It just so happens that he can regenerate from anything short of destruction of his very matter itself, or purification. If he couldn't regenerate, he'd be dead from half the shit Frieza has taken. As far as we know, the same goes for Cell too, though it's possible that he could take as much as Frieza, simply because he was made from Frieza's cells.
Cell and Buu > Frieza
Originally posted by Inedian
Cell and Buu > Frieza
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dontgetit
No shit, Sherlock.
If powers were equalized, Frieza would be more durable though. Buu and Cell could survive more, via regeneration, but they'd get torn apart by things Frieza would tank.
Also, we're talking DBS here. Stop bringing up Cell, or Buu. Buu can't survive a hakai, Golden Frieza can.
Originally posted by SSJGGogeta
...dontgetit
No shit, Sherlock.
If powers were equalized, Frieza would be more durable though. Buu and Cell could survive more, via regeneration, but they'd get torn apart by things Frieza would tank.
Also, we're talking DBS here. Stop bringing up Cell, or Buu. Buu can't survive a hakai, Golden Frieza can.
Base Goku survived Hakai. Goku durability > Frieza.