Originally posted by Zenwolf
He had his lightsaber!Still it's quite dumb for Canon to do that with the pirates..they could have done it a little better than pirates..
Those pirates supposed to be quite hardcore. Hondo's gone toe to toe with Anakin Skywalker 😂
And to be fair he was surrounded and ambushed and like you pointed out without his Lightsaber.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Those pirates supposed to be quite hardcore. Hondo's gone toe to toe with Anakin Skywalker 😂And to be fair he was surrounded and ambushed and like you pointed out without his Lightsaber.
Originally posted by BlueTiger1144
Why are the feats in the movies so pathetic when compared to feats from novels?
Take a look at these explanations:
"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves—and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences ... The further one branches away from the movies, the more interpretation and speculation come into play. LucasBooks works diligently to keep the continuing Star Wars expanded universe cohesive and uniform, but stylistically, there is always room for variation."
- Steve Sansweet
"When it comes to absolute canon, the real story of Star Wars, you must turn to the films themselves—and only the films. Even novelizations are interpretations of the film, and while they are largely true to George Lucas' vision (he works quite closely with the novel authors), the method in which they are written does allow for some minor differences. The novelizations are written concurrently with the film's production, so variations in detail do creep in from time to time. Nonetheless, they should be regarded as very accurate depictions of the fictional Star Wars movies.
The further one branches away from the movies, the more interpretation and speculation come into play. LucasBooks works diligently to keep the continuing Star Wars expanded universe cohesive and uniform, but stylistically, there is always room for variation. Not all artists draw Luke Skywalker the same way. Not all writers define the character in the same fashion. The particular attributes of individual media also come into play. A comic book interpretation of an event will likely have less dialogue or different pacing than a novel version. A video game has to take an interactive approach that favors gameplay. So too must card and roleplaying games ascribe certain characteristics to characters and events in order to make them playable.
The analogy is that every piece of published Star Wars fiction is a window into the 'real' Star Wars universe. Some windows are a bit foggier than others. Some are decidedly abstract. But each contains a nugget of truth to them. Like the great Jedi Master Obi-Wan Kenobi said, 'many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our point of view.' " 
- Christopher Cerasi
Films, or the works of George Lucas in general, are the most realistic mediums to consider for evaluating the strengths (and limitations) of a character. This isn't to say that other mediums are useless to cite but one needs to be careful in assessing developments in them.
Consider the case of Mace Windu:-
Check this footage:
Setting of this battle: Dantooine
At a quick glance: Mace Windu appears to be solo'ing that army of the battle droids.
However, the First Battle of Geonosis comes to mind:
NOWHERE TO RUN
Responding to Obi-Wan's relayed message, Mace Windu and 200 Jedi travel to Geonosis to rescue him and stop the Trade Federation from obtaining more droids. Jango Fett opens fire upon the Jedi but Mace Windu retaliates and slays the bounty hunter. Boba Fett, Jango's cloned son, is orphaned as a result of Mace's action and must now rely on his own instincts to survive. Despite their power and abilities, the Jedi are vastly outnumbered by the battle droids and Geonosian warriors, and many fall to the arena floor. As more droids pour into the arena, the surviving Jedi find themselves surrounded.
Taken from Star Wars - Ultimate Visual Guide
It is unrealistic to expect a lone Jedi to solo an entire army of the battle droids out in the open irrespective of his powers. Then why do the Star Wars: Clone Wars (2003) cartoons seem to suggest otherwise?
STYLISTIC DIFFERENCE
Re-examine the footage at the top. You will notice that an army of the Clone Troopers is present in the field and clashing with the battle droids. The medium in question does not portray this aspect of the battle in a clear manner and is completely focused on the actions of Mace Windu instead.
Next, we notice a massive seismic tank arriving in the field and it attempts to turn the tide of this battle. However;
On a mission to Dantooine, Mace Windu single-handedly destroys a huge seismic tank to defeat an army of the Federation Droids.
Taken from Star Wars - Ultimate Visual Guide
So how Mace Windu managed to destroy it?
Not with his powers; this target was too big for him to tackle in this manner. Therefore, Mace Windu infiltrated it and sabotaged its machinery from within, using his lightsaber. This is similar to how Anakin Skywalker destroyed an OG-9 homing spider droid and Revan destroyed a Basilisk war droid, by using a lightsaber.
We also need to look at the other side of the coin:
Fortunately, the clone troops live up to the Kaminoans' promise to be immensely superior to droid soldiers, and help the Jedi win many decisive battles against the Separatist armies.
Taken from Star Wars - Ultimate Visual Guide
Mace Windu is not an exception to the established norm. His exploits on Dantoonie does not set him apart from other names like Darth Marr, Darth Malgus, Darth Decimus, Darth Vader and Revan in the battlefield.
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Inconsistencies or not, if we can look past the STYLISTIC DIFFERENCES between the mediums and critically evaluate developments across them - we can see the bigger picture.
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So Count Dooku doubted his ability to tackle those 30 pirates without a lightsaber? Very telling indeed. 🙂
I wouldn't really so much as say it's inconsistent partially so maybe, I mean Trebor was wading through battalions of battle droids, there was just so many droids(seeing as they were right under a droid factory and thousands were pouring out everywhere) and potential friendly fire, that going all ham with Force powers might be more of a bad than good thing.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Those pirates supposed to be quite hardcore. Hondo's gone toe to toe with Anakin Skywalker 😂And to be fair he was surrounded and ambushed and like you pointed out without his Lightsaber.
Toe to toe is stretching it frankly, if that.
Yeah, but he has The Force. I mean pirates are kinda low on the threat level overall, it might have been better if they had been gritty mercenaries with a variety of different weapons instead of just blasters. Mercs have at least shown to be very capable, moreso than pirates anyway.
Still I stopped seeing the whole TCW as both Canon and Legends, it's more Canon with added bits of Legends if that makes sense, a lot less complicated with less confusion in trying to make sense of certain situations and what not.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Well they were in a sword fight Lol.Reminds me Anakin, Obi-Wan and even Dooku all had their fair share of embarrassing moments during TCW. So not sure why Maul gets such a hard time for his low showings.
Yeah but toe to toe? I'm not seeing it. It didn't really look like much a fight frankly. But yeah, Maul gets ragged on a lot.