Originally posted by hutchy1345
Why is current superman that strong?
The depiction of NU52 Superman was Clark at HALF-STRENGTH given the machinations of Mxyptlk. Once he defeated Mxy both sides of his essence were rejoined granting him full strength.
The showings of Superman since then have him conservatively high trans/skyfather.
People who believe SM will lose to the first 4 needs to stop taking drugs period.
BB-is currently a Mid-Tier with a Elite Top Tier attack. He lose to SM 9/10
Thor-has already lost to SM there's nothing to suggest he would win against a more powerful version of SM. He lose to SM 7/10
SS-is a waste of space, SS SOP is to blast everything in sight and rarely use his more elective abilities. While he has the possibility to be a team wrecker he never lives up to the hype. He lose to SM 9/10
Dr Strange- is the closess to an arguably tough fight. But SM has fought enough mages to deal with Strange. He lose to SM 7/10
Sentry-is the toughest fight to judge, Sentry has had enough low feats that an argument can be made he should lose to SM. But the kicker it's Void Sentry and SM would have gone through the wringer by the other 4 fighters. Therefore IMO Sentry wins 6/10
Originally posted by shadowknight
People who believe SM will lose to the first 4 needs to stop taking drugs period.BB-is currently a Mid-Tier with a Elite Top Tier attack. He lose to SM 9/10
Thor-has already lost to SM there's nothing to suggest he would win against a more powerful version of SM. He lose to SM 7/10
SS-is a waste of space, SS SOP is to blast everything in sight and rarely use his more elective abilities. While he has the possibility to be a team wrecker he never lives up to the hype. He lose to SM 9/10
Dr Strange- is the closess to an arguably tough fight. But SM has fought enough mages to deal with Strange. He lose to SM 7/10
Sentry-is the toughest fight to judge, Sentry has had enough low feats that an argument can be made he should lose to SM. But the kicker it's Void Sentry and SM would have gone through the wringer by the other 4 fighters. Therefore IMO Sentry wins 6/10
He's actually taken the exotic route quite a few times... He doesn't generally do a bunch in any given fight because he doesn't need to since him going exotic doesn't usually require a follow up, but he's definitely done it in enough fights for using more than basic punches and blasts to be considered "in character" for him.
Originally posted by darthgoober
He's actually taken the exotic route quite a few times... He doesn't generally do a bunch in any given fight because he doesn't need to since him going exotic doesn't usually require a follow up, but he's definitely done it in enough fights for using more than basic punches and blasts to be considered "in character" for him.
Anyway Superman would beat the shit out of Surfer in such a fight.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has done more speedblitzes.Anyway Superman would beat the shit out of Surfer in such a fight.
I tend to agree, Superman would beat the mes out of Surfer, if Superman made it into a slug it out point for point. The thing that gets me is that the Surfer has the ability to alter a characters genetic makeup. He did this to Lunatik. Does Superman have a way of negating this power? If not the Surfer IMO has a legit means of winning.
Black Bolt's attack is sound plus extra, but there's definitely a large sonic component. Click the following link and scroll down to the bottom and you will find the attack powering up Dazzler, a mutant whose abilities are powered by sound:
I was debating whether to post some images of Black Bolt's voice beating heavy bricks like Hulk, Apocalypse, and Gladiator. I still might, but, till then, it might be worthwhile to note that BB has physically contended with the likes of Gladiator as well, at least if the CURRENTLY working links of the following thread is any indication:
https://comicvine.gamespot.com/black-bolt/4005-4329/forums/how-did-black-bolt-beat-gladiator-565239/
Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
The depiction of NU52 Superman was Clark at HALF-STRENGTH given the machinations of Mxyptlk. Once he defeated Mxy both sides of his essence were rejoined granting him full strength.The showings of Superman since then have him conservatively high trans/skyfather.
I'll accept that Superman can win against Black Bolt if Black doesn't think to use his voice before Superman uncharacteristically blitzes him, as people seem to be suggesting.
It will take a lot more to convince me Superman has a reasonable chance if Bolt whispers at him, though, let alone speaks or screams. Not even the powerful pre-Crisis versions of Kryptonians could endure the level of audio we're talking about where Black Bolt is concerned, no matter HOW powerful you think Superman's strength and durability are.
I remember one story, for instance, where Superman went to the extreme of procuring dwarf star material to combat a mere sonic gun. Neutronium ear plugs, they were termed, and apparently featured in some issue of Action Comics. I do not recall the issue number, so perhaps someone can help me there?
Here are two links I've found that mention the episode, though the first may appear as an image:
http://www.earljwoods.com/2008/06/to-ear-is-superhuman.html?m=1
Originally posted by Stoic
I tend to agree, Superman would beat the mes out of Surfer, if Superman made it into a slug it out point for point. The thing that gets me is that the Surfer has the ability to alter a characters genetic makeup. He did this to Lunatik. Does Superman have a way of negating this power? If not the Surfer IMO has a legit means of winning.
Surfer doesn't gets a win that way.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman has done more speedblitzes.Anyway Superman would beat the shit out of Surfer in such a fight.
And anyway I didn't say anything about Supes in that post, I was simply contesting the idea that it'll be more "in character" for Surfer to do nothing but punch and blast in a forum fight.
