Originally posted by Inhuman
😆 Comparing MCU's first 4 movies that features C list characters in the general audiences eyes to DCEU's 4 movies featuring every A lister they have in their roster.
Suicide Squad is hardly A lister. Wonder Woman isn't that popular either in terms of having actual fans.
But it tells how you need to make excuses for why MCU is comparatively behind DCEU.
The DCEU also had the benefit of releasing their sub-par movies when comic book movies are popular. Something the first 4 MCU movies didn't have. (They actually created the current comic movie fad)
Sub par movies failed like Green Lantern. The comic book movie fad is created by Nolan trilogy. Not MCU.
If the DCEU's first 4 movies were of Aquaman, Martian Man Hunter, Shazam, and Cyborg AND they were released without any help from a current comic book movie trend in hollywood and made more money than the first MCU movies then we can compare apples to apples.
Why would that be necessary? You can compare Spider-Man Homecoming right now.
Till then the "BBBut the first DCEU movies featuring the worlds most popular heroes made more money than Marvels first 4 movies featuring C listers" argument is stupid.
Excuses, excuses. MCU fanboys are sure whiny.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Yeah and thats why MCU is so good. The ability to link movies! Tell LONG STORIES!...NEVER ENDING FUN.DC however...BvS was just a STUPID FIGHT OVER MARTHA! HAHAHAHAH
Suicide squad was a Horrendous Story.
Man of steel was a mediocre start.
Wonder Woman was a LETS FIX THE SHITTY ERRORs of the previous movies.
Ratings prove Marvel is on top. DC fanboy.
Only money matters.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Typical DC fan boy, don't care how good the movie is as long as it makes money.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
GOTG1 made more than IM1 because of inflation and a huge growth in the international market.Sony have put Spider-Man's goodwill down a lot, but still Homecoming will make more than GOTG1. Heck It might even get close to GOTG2. Definitely making more than any DCEU solo film to date.
Lesser known characters are making more money these days. Weird but it's what it is.
Adjusted for inflation/3-d, TDK actually made more than Avengers and sold more tickets to boot.
1 Marvel's The Avengers BV $623,357,910 4,349 $207,438,708 4,349 5/4/12
2 The Dark Knight WB $660,251,600 $533,345,358 7/18/08
3 Spider-Man Sony $617,719,400 $403,706,375 5/3/02
4 Batman WB $559,666,600 $251,188,924 6/23/89
5 Spider-Man 2 Sony $534,811,300 $373,585,825 6/30/04
6 The Dark Knight Rises WB $511,902,300 $448,139,099 7/20/12
7 Avengers: Age of Ultron BV $475,854,300 $459,005,868 5/1/15
8 Spider-Man 3 Sony $434,848,000 $336,530,303 5/4/07
9 Iron Man 3 BV $433,906,300 $409,013,994 5/3/13
10 Captain America: Civil War BV $415,654,000 $408,084,349 5/6/16
11 Wonder Woman WB $409,537,039 4,165 $103,251,471 4,165 6/2/17
12 Iron Man Par. $394,234,700 $318,412,101 5/2/08
13 Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 BV $387,070,300 $389,682,717 5/5/17
14 Deadpool Fox $375,984,600 $363,070,709 2/12/16
15 Batman Forever WB $376,100,400 $184,031,112 6/16/95
16 Guardians of the Galaxy BV $366,068,600 $333,176,600 8/1/14
17 Iron Man 2 Par. $349,375,100 $312,433,331 5/7/10
18 Batman Returns WB $348,813,000 $162,831,698 6/19/92
19 Superman II WB $345,960,800 $108,185,706 6/19/81
20 Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice WB $340,137,000 $330,360,194 3/25/16
Wonder Woman also won the summer. Has the best multiplier of any modern Super hero movie. Amazing feat for the Amazonian.
[quote[Best Multipliers Ever for $70+ Million Opening Films (Friday Openers):
1. Avatar (2009) — 77.0 million (9.73)
2. Finding Nemo (2003) — 70.3 million (4.84)
3. Zootopia (2016) — 75.1 million (4.55)
4. Inside Out (2015) — 90.4 million (3.94)
5. American Sniper (2015) — 89.3 million (3.92)
6. Wonder Woman (2017) — 103.3 million (3.91)
7. Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) — 248.0 million (3.78)
8. Toy Story 3 (2010) — 110.3 million (3.76)
9. The Incredibles (2004) — 70.5 million (3.71)
10. Finding Dory (2016) — 135.1 million (3.60)[/quote]
I can smell that 4x multiplier.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Excuses, excuses. By that logic, WW shouldn't even come close to 800 million yet it did.Lesser known characters are making more money these days. Weird but it's what it is.
Excuses for what? I don't get what you're saying. Wonder Woman is the most iconic and famous super heroine of all time.
You're fooling yourself if you think having Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman on the big screen is the same as introducing origins for Iron Man, Thor and Captain America.
Originally posted by abhilegendWhy would that be necessary? You can compare Spider-Man Homecoming right now.
Spider-Man Homecoming is grossing more than any DCEU film except BvS which was the combination of Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. So you're point is a fail.
Also you're just looking at Gross and not looking at Profit. The DCEU marketed the heck out of MOS, BvS and SS. And again you're kidding yourself if you don't think that ate into their profits.
Originally posted by playa1258
World wide DThor.Wonder Woman is going to beat every MCU film this year domestically.
Still all comic films have done good this year.
Given Abhi is going on about worldwide numbers I don't get why you're suddenly pulling the domestic card when it comes to WW.
But hey if you want to look at it that way, Domestically Iron Man 1 & 2 both sold better than MOS, BvS and SS. Think about that for a second when comparing Phase I's for both.
Edit- didn't need to triple post.
Originally posted by abhilegendEven DC fans have admitted marvel is far better today than DC. You're in denial and backing up pitiful films. Batman v. Superman was pure shit. Man of Steel was lame. Suicide Squad was a jumbled mess. WW is the only good film of the bunch. Financially no icons from DC have even come close to Cap 3's dollars. When batman and Superman can't touch Cap 3 you can tell marvel is decimating them at the box office.
Suicide Squad is hardly A lister. Wonder Woman isn't that popular either in terms of having actual fans.But it tells how you need to make excuses for why MCU is comparatively behind DCEU.
Sub par movies failed like Green Lantern. The comic book movie fad is created by Nolan trilogy. Not MCU.
Why would that be necessary? You can compare Spider-Man Homecoming right now.
Excuses, excuses. MCU fanboys are sure whiny.
Now take the dollars out of it and look at public perception. Marvel has a clear vision whereas DC has changed their minds and announcing all sorts of films that won't ever see the light of the day. Confidence is shattered in the collective universe in today's public perception. This dceu doesn't bode well critically either.
What we are hearing about the state of affairs of the Justice league movie it's more of the same. This is a critical point in their universe and if they lay another stinker it'll hurt the bran even further. The only cure is quality films which marvel has been eeking out going on ten years next year.
Let the marvel dominance wash over you and let the denial suffocate your pitiful self.