Lord Voldermort vs Sauron

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Lord Voldemort vs Sauron

Lord Voldermort vs Sauron

Sauron mentioned "You Know Whom's" name. Voldemort decides he should make Sauron pay.

Who wins?

2 days prep time. All powers and abilities allowed.

There's already another thread but the answer is clear, Voldemort.

Re: Lord Voldermort vs Sauron

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Voldemort decides he should make Sauron pay.

Considering how powerful Voldemort is, I just hope Sauron has the required galleons with which to pay Voldemort for daring to speak his name.

Who wins?

2 days prep time. All powers and abilities allowed.

Well okay wait, this kinda gets tricky since you say all powers shown. In LOTR at the beginning when he is shown he has a physical form. After that he is just some spirit.

In the hobbit movies it is not quite clear what the hell he is. Surely not as physical as he was in the beginning of LOTR. Some weird sentient darkness type thing. Yet obviously then he had more of a presence than during the majority of the LOTR movie, since we saw no evil darkness monster coming out to fight the forces of good.

On the other hand I can't think of anything even that version of Sauron did that Voldemort couldn't counter or just avoid via teleportation.

Sauron vs Gandalf:

YouTube video

Sauron vs Galadriel:

YouTube video

Re: Re: Lord Voldermort vs Sauron

Originally posted by Surtur
Considering how powerful Voldemort is, I just hope Sauron has the required galleons with which to pay Voldemort for daring to speak his name.

Well okay wait, this kinda gets tricky since you say all powers shown. In LOTR at the beginning when he is shown he has a physical form. After that he is just some spirit.

In the hobbit movies it is not quite clear what the hell he is. Surely not as physical as he was in the beginning of LOTR. Some weird sentient darkness type thing. Yet obviously then he had more of a presence than during the majority of the LOTR movie, since we saw no evil darkness monster coming out to fight the forces of good.

On the other hand I can't think of anything even that version of Sauron did that Voldemort couldn't counter or just avoid via teleportation.

Sauron vs Gandalf:

YouTube video

Sauron vs Galadriel:

YouTube video

Voldemort then? Voldemort still has his artefacts.

Voldemort would also destroy the Night King.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Voldemort then? Voldemort still has his artefacts.

I'm trying to just figure out exactly what Voldemort would do to kill some kind of sentient darkness/fire. If I was Voldy I'd try transmutation before I try a death spell.

Originally posted by Surtur
I'm trying to just figure out exactly what Voldemort would do to kill some kind of sentient darkness/fire. If I was Voldy I'd try transmutation before I try a death spell.
Sauron was able to be harmed since Galadriel banished him as a spirit. Voldemort and his magic is extremely powerful and versatile.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sauron was able to be harmed since Galadriel banished him as a spirit. Voldemort and his magic is extremely powerful and versatile.

Well yeah, but she used her own magic to banish him. What is Voldemort going to do?

Originally posted by Surtur
Well yeah, but she used her own magic to banish him. What is Voldemort going to do?
Fiendfyre.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Voldemort would also destroy the Night King.

Out of thread!

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Out of thread!
Glad to hear you won't deny it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Fiendfyre.

But he also appears as fire and shapes it to resemble a physical form.

Originally posted by Surtur
But he also appears as fire and shapes it to resemble a physical form.
Is he the same properties as Fiendfyre. No, he isn't so it isn't the same thing.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Is he the same properties as Fiendfyre. No, he isn't so it isn't the same thing.

I guess it could work since it is dark magic.

Re: Re: Lord Voldermort vs Sauron

Originally posted by Surtur
In LOTR at the beginning when he is shown he has a physical form. After that he is just some spirit.

In the hobbit movies it is not quite clear what the hell he is. Surely not as physical as he was in the beginning of LOTR. Some weird sentient darkness type thing.

Funny you should mention that because in Return Of The King he was meant to have a physical appearance

In earlier versions of Jackson's script, Sauron does indeed "come forth" at Aragorn's challenge, and does battle with him: The extra materials published together with the extended DVD version of the third movie indicate as much. Scenes of the fight were shot, but later this idea was discarded and was replaced by a scene (in the extended version) where Aragorn kills the "Mouth of Sauron" (a representative of Sauron) before fighting a Mordor troll. In fact, the footage of the battle with the troll was the same footage of Aragorn fighting Sauron, with the CGI troll mapped over a painted-out Sauron, as seen in the DVD special features. In this abandoned scene, when Sauron first emerges from the Black Gate, he appears in his fair and seductive form as "Annatar the Lord of Gifts", trying to entice Aragorn and the other leaders with offers of peace and dominion. When they reject him, he reverts to his true form, as seen in the prologue.

Sauron vaporises Voldemort's wand, like he did Gandalf's staff /thread

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Sauron vaporises Voldemort's wand, like he did Gandalf's staff /thread
False, and that took time and Gandalf was beaten. Voldemort kills him with a spell.