Battle of the Five Armies (Lotr) vs. Game of Thrones (mainly season 7)

4. **400 Gundabad Bats (400 are left). Since they have flight they close the distance far quicker than the land forces. Their goal is to primarily focus on the inner layers past the first wall into the center of the castle. Disrupting coordination and movement from anyone tasked with defense of Casterly Rock while the number one priority is the location of the Night King.

5. Bolg and his Guldur Orcs--Bolg leads **50,000 Guldur Orcs out of the north towards the weakened part of the fire towards the forces and to occupy another front to this major battle. **50 Wargs (0 left), **20 Orc Beserkers (0 left), **15 trolls and Olog-hai (0 left), and ** 6 Ogres (0 left. Their goal is to cut through whatever (1,000) stands in their way to also attack Casterly Rock. Reinforcements and an utterly enormous force.
**300 Gundabad bats(leaving 100 more) are also with them and take flight with this force and seek to overwhelm any siege type weapons present at the time of their arrival. They also attack anything with the ability to fly at the time of their arrival.

6. **5 Great Eagles (5 are left)--are deployed from the mountain. They like the Gundabad bats are focusing on the center area of Casterly Rock looking for the Night King and to attack any pivotal leaders they find from a higher elevation.

7. Smaug--also comes down from the mountain with his superior speed the moment the Night King is spotted. He is signaled by the war horns of Azog. When the Night King is discovered Smaug will come down to converge on him.
**4 Great Eagles (leaving 1 remaining on the Mountain stronghold) are deployed to accompany Smaug in case the GoT three dragons are deployed. Their purpose is to attack the dragons heads and those riding them.

Conclusion: Casterly Rock and your insistence to have all your vital pieces in one position make this a no brainer. The war will be decided here. Once the Night King perishes you lose your ability to raise the dead and the majority of your forces with one dead dragon as the dessert. One death is that pivotal to this war. You also have all your dragons present with the mother of dragons here. She's not used to an opponent attacking from the sky. Level playing field.

Map:

Originally posted by quanchi112
[B]Thranduil's Silvan Elves of Mirkwood

Coordinated attacks with the dwarves without any training and in the midst of sudden battle.

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Very fearsome.

I need you to tell me the numbers of how many are moving with Azog's frontline, Thrundail, and Dane's frontlines. Give me numbers.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Very fearsome.

I need you to tell me the numbers of how many are moving with Azog's frontline, Thrundail, and Dane's frontlines. Give me numbers.

2. Thranduil's forces the remaining **7,000 Elves will be under his command save Legolas and Tauriel.

3. Dain's forces
** 5,000 Dwarves with all the remaining war machines and goats. They also have half the mounted goat/ram cavalry with the other half at the fort.

This is what happened in response to Quanchi's latest maneuvers.

It was a swift afternoon. “The enemy’s army was to generous in giving us a free fort”. Jaime tought watching his 40K Lannister troops march passing the holes in where the enemy slipped in towards Casterly Rock. The Fort was 5 minutes away. “Why did Jon need to go back the Fort!? Damned Dwarf and his precarious actions!” Bronn said cursing at Tyrion.

Meanwhile, in the west boats kept coming and going from the Fort’s shorelines… “Welcome master Tyrion. Queen Cercei! Lord Bran. The Fort has been prepared as requested! The Dragon Queen is expecting you”, Lord Varys said respectfully. On the horizon, a 10K army was moving towards Casterly Rock. “It’s gonna be a night attack”, Bran said. “The Castle won’t be lost without their troops suffering a bit!”, Cersei said. “10K troops, 3K archers, 3K Dothraki, 300 ships, and God knows how many sticky corpses!”, they won’t walk out easily Tyrion said. “The Dark Lord might summon Smaug to move”, Bran predicted. “100 more Scorpions were sent to C.R, plus that Night King has surrounded the entire castle with Snow. 1 meter thick. Those troops will take long to breach the walls. I say they won’t like what they’ll see”, Tyrion said confidently; he added “Everything is going according to the plans”.

On the other end of the bay, there it stood C.R! Sansa watched his recently handled castle. It was amazing! Twice the size of Winterfell, thicker and taller walls. “Who in his sane mind would dare attack this castle?”, Sansa wondered with awe. “Is everything ready!?” “Yes milady! Catapults are ready. Reinforcements should be here in an hour. Enemy is to be here within 2 hours milady!”, Littlefinger said. She kept watching. She wonder that was gonna be the last of his days. “Damn Walkers, this Castle is freezing!!”, The Hound said angrily. “Bad for us, twice as bad for those ****ers!”, Jorah Mormont said. The light was decreasing, the temperatures too. The moon was beginning to show herself.

***15 WW are in Casterly rock.
***Snow sorrounding the castle to 100m is deep enough to reach to the knee.
***Strong winds and cold temperatures are forecasted at night as well as snow.
***LoTR troops will come out of the Worm Holes near Casterly Rock at 8 pm.

Map showing latest events.

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correction. Snow won't be sorrounding the castle that deep. Also there won't be snow falling. Only strong winds, cold temperature, and snow on the surface.

Assault begins

1. Azog's forces emerge from his hole first. His orcs, wargs, trolls, and Ogres are the 1st wave rushing the walls and converging on any force in their path to secure the outer perimeter. Azog is at the back line giving commands and sounding his war horn when necessary. Primary focus is decimating the field of all opposing foes to secure the land outside of Casterly Rock.

2. Thranduil's forces emerge 3 minutes later. Thranduil is amidst the 2nd wave with the archers directing the timing and coordination of their highly skilled archers. Primary focus for the archers is the men lining the walls of Casterly Rock's defense in an elevated position.

3. Dain's forces emerge 10 minutes later. Dain is at the back line of the 3rd wave with his dwarf forces. Their primacy force is to assist Azog's forces and to destroy anyone opposing them on the battlefield.

The combined forces seek to form a horseshoe pattern around Casterly Rock. Orcs lead the charge in the first wave. Second wave is the dwarves and their goats. Third line is the elves lining up in formation launching arrows based on Thranduil's commands. The dwarf anti arrow ballistas are right alongside the third wave as well.

Behind them are the trolls geared up for rock tossing. They are primarily firing on the walls and past them of Casterly Rock to weaken the walls/structures and create as many points of entry as possible.

4. Gundabad bats (400 of 900) are attacking from the sky. Their primary goal is to overwhelm the enemy from the air above striking down farther down in Casterly rock's defenses that the arrows cannot reach. The Eagles are focusing on their leaders and on high alert for the Night King.

5. Bolg's forces are converging from the north and there to provide another front to back of the other combined forces. Their primary focus is clean up. Whatever remains wounded or behind is finished off with them also converging on Casterly Rock.

Gundabad Bats (300 leaving 200) coordinating from the sky along with his forces. Their primary focus is to swarm all the catapults, scorpions to either kill or disarm these weapons.

6. **Eagles (5 of 10) are deployed to assault all the catapults and scorpions.

7. **Smaug and **Eagles (4 of 5) are deployed only if the Night King or any Game of Thrones dragons are spotted. If and when Smaug converges he peppers Casterly Rock and the defenses with fire and focuses on the destruction of the Night King and or all spotted dragons. The Eagles are tasked with attacking the dragon's heads and any dragon riders assisting Smaug on the battlefield.

Weaknesses of the GoT dragons

1. Still very young and not at full size
2. Not technically magic
3. Large animals with exploitable weaknesses and vulnerable points on their body

1:00-1:15 Drogon was able to expose his underside to protect himself and his rider due to certain points being thicker and harder to pierce than others.
These dragons use their hackles to increase their size to intimidate enemies. This alerts the viewers they have weaknesses. Only animals with vulnerabilities such as a cat against a bear in nature. Bears don't need to intimidate a cat because there's no need or insecurity to do so since there's no chance a house cat would win. A cat needs to inflate itself and its chances against a bear because it doesn't have a chance due to how these animals match up against each other. That's a figurative example and not meant to be taken as a literal example but the point is clear. The larger more durable dragon Smaug won't seek these beta male tendencies that's reserved for the weaker GoT dragons that mirror smaller animals in the real world.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p1gxZuc-KeE

Conclusion: These dragons are nowhere near as durable as Smaug is portrayed nor does he show the inferior animal hackles defense to intimidate his adversaries. Smaug is also far greater in size and has shown human like intelligence through his reasoning, communication, and on screen interactions. Advantage: Lotr.

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