Monarch replaces Odin against The Fourth Host of Celestials

Originally posted by -K-M-
Prior to him absorbing all the captain atoms from across the multiverse he unleashed a blast that instantly and casually destroyed North America. At work so can't pull up scan but think it was just North America.

cool. see, that is SOMETHING at least. nothing remotely CLOSE to enough, but, still, something. maybe he could match surfer or something.... 😖hifty:

anyway. i've been sticking to that arc and the damage done IN that arc. but if monarch can't show something WELL above planet-destroying firepower, he simply has zero chance in this. even if he does, that would indicate he might be able to harm ONE celestial. he's facing the entire host.

thinking monarch can solo the entire host is, as i said a long time ago--completely and utterly crazy. imo.

Well he could have done a bigger blast it was more to teach an escapee a lesson. So yeah not far fetched in the least he has planetary blasts especially after absorbing all th captain atoms

Originally posted by leonidas
😍

and hey, i finally got my first cell phone so i actually COULD be phoning it in! 😱

but i'm not. sneer

Originally posted by leonidas
cool. see, that is SOMETHING at least. nothing remotely CLOSE to enough, but, still, something. maybe he could match surfer or something.... 😖hifty:

anyway. i've been sticking to that arc and the damage done IN that arc. but if monarch can't show something WELL above planet-destroying firepower, he simply has zero chance in this. even if he does, that would indicate he might be able to harm ONE celestial. he's facing the entire host.

thinking monarch can solo the entire host is, as i said a long time ago--completely and utterly crazy. imo.

He can destroy an entire universe with energy but can only destroy planets with his blasts.

Celestials get bitchslapped like the Monitors here.

http://i.imgur.com/LBI6Y2Y.png

Or here.

http://i.imgur.com/RA7RxbU.jpg

Defeats 52 Captain Atoms and multiple Supermen with no effort.

https://imgur.com/a/oBRG8

Still think Celestials have any chance?

Abhi can you post the North America blast? At work right now

The Celestials stomp.

Originally posted by -K-M-
Abhi can you post the North America blast? At work right now

Originally posted by abhilegend
http://imgur.com/a/Q8B6K

Much appreciated. But yeah I'm not sure why people are doubting he doesn't have planetary blasts? He did that casually and to teach a lesson and didn't intend to destroy the planet but pretty clear he could. That was even pre captain atom absorptions

Originally posted by -K-M-
Much appreciated. But yeah I'm not sure why people are doubting he doesn't have planetary blasts? He did that casually and to teach a lesson and didn't intend to destroy the planet but pretty clear he could. That was even pre captain atom absorptions

It's about how these characters match up. Monarch doesn't have the power nor the means to take on this group of characters that would decimate herald level characters as well with the ability to reform from damage to boot.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

He can destroy an entire universe with energy but can only destroy planets with his blasts.

Celestials get bitchslapped like the Monitors here.

http://i.imgur.com/LBI6Y2Y.png

Or here.

http://i.imgur.com/RA7RxbU.jpg

Defeats 52 Captain Atoms and multiple Supermen with no effort.

https://imgur.com/a/oBRG8

Still think Celestials have any chance?

omg...

he can destroy a universe in an uncontrolled death blast. again--who cares? he isn't killing himself, so for the 5th time it's irrelevant.

cool scene beating up a bunch of heralds. actually it is a very good feat.

the destroyer had the power of DOZENS of skyfathers. 😐

not to mention ALL of odin's power including the life force of asgard in its entirety. that is astronomically more powerful than a skyfather alone. and its most powerful beam (an unamped beam that was capable of killing odin way back when odin was comparable to galactus) was casually deflected by the weakest single celestial. monarch beat a dozen mid-high heralds. the weakest celestial utterly tanked a blast equivalent to the power of a dozen SKYFATHERS, at least.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/6955/959676-odin_zeus_vishnu_3.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85558/1676128-669515_heavenly_conflict_5.jpg

that feat dwarfed arishem no selling zeus, odin and vishnu.

the magnitude of difference is staggering. if that is his best, he has utterly no chance to harm even ONE celestial, let alone taking a host with oaa and arishem, both of whom are far more powerful than the celestial that tanked the disintegration beam. low ball all you want. monarch has no showing that matches the power output of the destroyer, not without killing himself.

if you wanna go ahead and just assume he can output more damage than that, be my guest. lol you can't prove it though and have nothing but unsupported opinion. that destroyer would shred that group that monarch fought without effort. they're heralds--it's powered by skyfathers. not sure what you're not getting here, honestly. anyway, you will never convince me he has any chance whatsoever in this scenario, so let's quit this nonsense. probably boring the onlookers by now anyway. /shrug

Originally posted by -K-M-
Much appreciated. But yeah I'm not sure why people are doubting he doesn't have planetary blasts? He did that casually and to teach a lesson and didn't intend to destroy the planet but pretty clear he could. That was even pre captain atom absorptions

i've little doubt he could do a planet-leveling blast. that level of blast would go unnoticed by even the weakest celestial though. he'd need damage that DWARFED planet-killing power to even threaten a SINGLE celestial. without proof of that capability, in this situation he has no chance at all. /shrug

Originally posted by leonidas
omg...

he can destroy a universe in an uncontrolled death blast. again--who cares? he isn't killing himself, so for the 5th time it's irrelevant.

Again, he didn't die. Cap was alive after that if you didn't know.

cool scene beating up a bunch of heralds. actually it is a very good feat.

the destroyer had the power of DOZENS of skyfathers. 😐

And I like how Monitors are only mid heralds.

Where was that stated?

Destroyer was only given a portion of power from skyfathers. Hence why when Destroyer was defeated only Odin and Asgardians died.

not to mention ALL of odin's power including the life force of asgard in its entirety. that is astronomically more powerful than a skyfather alone. and its most powerful beam (an unamped beam that was capable of killing odin way back when odin was comparable to galactus) was casually deflected by the weakest single celestial. monarch beat a dozen mid-high heralds. the weakest celestial utterly tanked a blast equivalent to the power of a dozen SKYFATHERS, at least.

So you are willing to take Odin's showings into account but celestials are restricted to Thor 300 only?

And aren't you being a little hyperbolic in blast equal to a dozen skyfathers?

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/0/6955/959676-odin_zeus_vishnu_3.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/8/85558/1676128-669515_heavenly_conflict_5.jpg

that feat dwarfed arishem no selling zeus, odin and vishnu.

Planetary attack only if I have to remind you.

the magnitude of difference is staggering. if that is his best, he has utterly no chance to harm even ONE celestial, let alone taking a host with oaa and arishem, both of whom are far more powerful than the celestial that tanked the disintegration beam. low ball all you want. monarch has no showing that matches the power output of the destroyer, not without killing himself.

He can do far more than planetary attacks. He toyed with SMP who had destroyed an entire universe by his bare hands and even kidnapped Mxy.

if you wanna go ahead and just assume he can output more damage than that, be my guest. lol you can't prove it though and have nothing but unsupported opinion. that destroyer would shred that group that monarch fought without effort. they're heralds--it's powered by skyfathers. not sure what you're not getting here, honestly. anyway, you will never convince me he has any chance whatsoever in this scenario, so let's quit this nonsense. probably boring the onlookers by now anyway. /shrug

You have shown time and time again the sheer lengths you want to go to dismiss anything that shows celestials in a bad light.

But don't worry, Monacrh slags them all like the pieces of shit that they are. Like a small part of phoenix did to Arishem.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Skyfathers vs Arishem

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276539/5364809-2547730429-f2k4W.jpg

Jean Grey with a fraction of PF and emotions of a bunch of aliens vs Arishem. Their next appearance IIRC

Conclusion : Skyfathers are a bunch of sissies.

Originally posted by leonidas
i've little doubt he could do a planet-leveling blast. that level of blast would go unnoticed by even the weakest celestial though. he'd need damage that DWARFED planet-killing power to even threaten a SINGLE celestial. without proof of that capability, in this situation he has no chance at all. /shrug

Originally posted by abhilegend
Skyfathers vs Arishem

https://static1.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11127/111276539/5364809-2547730429-f2k4W.jpg

Jean Grey with a fraction of PF and emotions of a bunch of aliens vs Arishem. Their next appearance IIRC

Conclusion : Skyfathers are a bunch of sissies.

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abhi, you are astounding. 😂 STILL not a single scan of monarch doing...anything remotely CLOSE to the damage it would take to hurt the weakest celestial.

so we saw his biggest blasts i take it? beating some heralds, blocking a monitor blast and watching another...teleport away, and taking out a continent?

😂

like i said, the only thing you've done is convince me, and i'm certain many others, that monarch has been HUGELY overrated for a long time on the forum. i mean, geezus... no wonder in all the odin vs monarch threads it's always a close call on the winner with most readers saying odin comes out on top. i mean even YOU have said ga prime was only borderline skyfather. and monarch couldn't even beat HIM. one celestial blast would shred his armor. the ONLY question in my mind is could they port away in time or bfr him somewhere. regardless, he wouldn't last more than a few seconds and would be able to do nothing at all to them.

if your goal was to make monarch look good in this thread, congrats on doing the exact opposite of that. 😂

nice attempt to low ball arishem though by pretending the goalposts have moved. again. 👆

carry on with a different playmate my friend.

incidentally, final point: the whole "he can destroy a universe so he must be able to kill celestialzzz!!11!" is utter nonsense, btw.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111212973/4995564-7041074514-11107.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111125382/3726807-8653043606-capta.jpg

regular old cap atom had the power inside him to both create and destroy a universe. i guess that makes him universal level too, and he can solo the entire host as well, amiright? 😂

😂

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds?mbid=social_facebook

😖hifty:

forgot to post this earlier--if an alt green lantern can pierce his armor:

https://imgur.com/fCMOWS4

imagine what a celestial or someone with REAL power could do to him.... ok, that's MORE than enough. been fun abhi.

All it did was open his face plate open which was bad for everyone around there. Also pre atom's absorption amp too

Originally posted by -K-M-
All it did was open his face plate open which was bad for everyone around there. Also pre atom's absorption amp too

I liked the goddamned green lantern, and Bruce's heroic sacrifice doing nothing at all made me sad. 🙁

Originally posted by leonidas
abhi, you are astounding. 😂 STILL not a single scan of monarch doing...anything remotely CLOSE to the damage it would take to hurt the weakest celestial.

so we saw his biggest blasts i take it? beating some heralds, blocking a monitor blast and watching another...teleport away, and taking out a continent?

😂

like i said, the only thing you've done is convince me, and i'm certain many others, that monarch has been HUGELY overrated for a long time on the forum. i mean, geezus... no wonder in all the odin vs monarch threads it's always a close call on the winner with most readers saying odin comes out on top. i mean even YOU have said ga prime was only borderline skyfather. and monarch couldn't even beat HIM. one celestial blast would shred his armor. the ONLY question in my mind is could they port away in time or bfr him somewhere. regardless, he wouldn't last more than a few seconds and would be able to do nothing at all to them.

if your goal was to make monarch look good in this thread, congrats on doing the exact opposite of that. 😂

nice attempt to low ball arishem though by pretending the goalposts have moved. again. 👆

carry on with a different playmate my friend.

Still on the same "nothing can hurt the celestials" train, huh?

Only marvel fanboys think Odin is anywhere near Monarch level.

Originally posted by leonidas
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/02/27/why-facts-dont-change-our-minds?mbid=social_facebook

😖hifty:

forgot to post this earlier--if an alt green lantern can pierce his armor:

https://imgur.com/fCMOWS4

imagine what a celestial or someone with REAL power could do to him.... ok, that's MORE than enough. been fun abhi.

Originally posted by leonidas
incidentally, final point: the whole "he can destroy a universe so he must be able to kill celestialzzz!!11!" is utter nonsense, btw.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11121/111212973/4995564-7041074514-11107.jpg

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11112/111125382/3726807-8653043606-capta.jpg

regular old cap atom had the power inside him to both create and destroy a universe. i guess that makes him universal level too, and he can solo the entire host as well, amiright? 😂

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-xIPrKFCrsG4/Va7uE60ZXKI/AAAAAAANgCU/OcZbBONp0mE/s1600/p_54_07.jpg
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