Originally posted by BackFire
A sock is a banned user who creates a new account to get past his ban.I think the way these people are viewed tends to vary a bit from mod to mod. For myself, I'm generally open to the idea of a sock coming back if they make attempts to engage other members in a reasonable way and try to take part in relatively respectful conversations. They will be on thin ice, though. If they come back merely to make trouble, that isn't acceptable and is a way to find yourself banned very quickly if you are a sock.
There's also the fact that the sock checker for this site is ancient and inefficient, and so it can be difficult to really "prove" if someone is a sock. Generally, the mods have been around long enough to be able to tell if someone is a sock simply by posting habits and personality, but we may not be able to prove it with the sock checker.
I think there's more leniency towards socks than there used to be. The site doesn't have a very large or healthy user base anymore, so I think we're pretty open to the idea of giving people second chances.
Lol look I don't want him banned, but what you just said here is pretty much a lie lol. A certain sock has come back just to talk shit about me, made more than one topic dedicated to that, etc.
I do not want him banned, but the whole "well as long as they try to engage members in a reasonable way" is nonsense. The most recently banned sock was no less reasonable than the one I am referring to lol.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol look I don't want him banned, but what you just said here is pretty much a lie lol. A certain sock has come back just to talk shit about me, made more than one topic dedicated to that, etc.I do not want him banned, but the whole "well as long as they try to engage members in a reasonable way" is nonsense. The most recently banned sock was no less reasonable than the one I am referring to lol.
Thorne did that,or are you talking about someone else?
Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]Thorne did that,or are you talking about someone else?
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Steve Zodiac is stop the hate lol. Who had 3 different verisons of that named, trolled constantly. Was banned for continually posting trolling topics. Has also posted topics dedicated to writing poems about me lol.
He can do what he wants, but we're going to call a spade a spade here. That isn't "reasonable" behavior lol.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol look I don't want him banned, but what you just said here is pretty much a lie lol. A certain sock has come back just to talk shit about me, made more than one topic dedicated to that, etc.I do not want him banned, but the whole "well as long as they try to engage members in a reasonable way" is nonsense. The most recently banned sock was no less reasonable than the one I am referring to lol.
Steve Zodiac has been on our radar for a while and we are keeping an eye on him, thing is while he may go after you from time to time, he does also engage in discussions as well. There is another member here who is a sock who has gone after other members but is also not yet banned. Also you go after him as well. It seems to be a mutual thing with you two so I've just sorta let it slide thus far.
Also keep in mind that I did not ban Thorne myself. Like I said, all mods will approach things a little differently. Another mod may not hold my views when it comes to socks and may be less lenient when it comes to letting them stay.
To add to what Backfire said, I posted this in the welcome thread recently:
Originally posted by The Lost
I think it depends on the recency of the permaban now. For example, I was permabanned in '05 but they let me stick around now, as well as a few others. That person was either banned a long time ago but is still totally intolerable or was banned recently.
Originally posted by BackFire
Steve Zodiac has been on our radar for a while and we are keeping an eye on him, thing is while he may go after you from time to time, he does also engage in discussions as well. There is another member here who is a sock who has gone after other members but is also not yet banned. Also you go after him as well. It seems to be a mutual thing with you two so I've just sorta let it slide thus far.Also keep in mind that I did not ban Thorne myself. Like I said, all mods will approach things a little differently. Another mod may not hold my views when it comes to socks and may be less lenient when it comes to letting them stay.
Lol, three separate "stop the hate things" were banned. Now he goes after Sable for thread counts, posting pics of it.
Sorry, it's just not really reasonable. Not every sock here engages in that.
I don't want him banned he is entertaining, but he is a troll lol. Through and through,
Originally posted by BackFire
For me, honestly I don't really care. I'll let more or less anyone back as long as they don't just troll non stop. Even then, if they amuse me I may let them stay.It feels like a wasted effort to really moderate this place these days.
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you shouldn't have to care, it's just a forum 👆
raz and ush stopped caring about this place a long time ago so why should you or any mod? some members care way too much about this forum. i am here out of habit, it's kinda like smoking...
Originally posted by The Nuul
👆you shouldn't have to care anymore, it's just a forum 👆
raz and ush stopped caring about this place a long time ago so why should you or any mod? some members care way too much about this forum. i am here out of habit, it's kinda like smoking...
Yeah but it's like....people who threaten murder exist here longer than people who did nothing close to that.
That is super weird having that drastic a difference in modding practices, but meh.
Originally posted by Surtur
Lol, three separate "stop the hate things" were banned. Now he goes after Sable for thread counts, posting pics of it.Sorry, it's just not really reasonable. Not every sock here engages in that.
I don't want him banned he is entertaining, but he is a troll lol. Through and through,
I don't believe I banned those people.
I will ban people for posting various slurs. May have done that at some point over the last month or two. Don't remember.
I'm not familiar with the sable/steve zodiac thing you're going on about. I don't really pay much attention to Steve Zodiac. Really, unless something gets reported I probably won't see it or know about it/care.
Originally posted by BackFire
I don't believe I banned those people.I will ban people for posting various slurs. May have done that at some point over the last month or two. Don't remember.
I'm not familiar with the sable/steve zodiac thing you're going on about. I don't really pay much attention to Steve Zodiac. Really, unless something gets reported I probably won't see it or know about it/care.
Okay well this just makes it even weirder lol. Some other mod noticed the shit STH pulled, but suddenly with Steve didn't.
Meh, an interesting mystery I guess.