Originally posted by Eternal Idol
Sanders didn't denounce the wealthy simply because they were wealthy, and therefore morally bankrupt people. He attacked the systems in place that make them as wealthy as they are, while simultaneously screwing over the middle class and the poor: tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax havens, low minimum wage, lax environmental policies, lax international trade/business policies, and politicians in their pockets to ensure their votes go toward laws which benefit them.That's quite a difference from saying rich people are bad because they have more money than anyone else.
Sure. The deck is stacked rhetoric. Even successful rich people admit as much.
The problem is, it's just rhetoric. Everyone works the crowds like this, but nobody actually does anything about it.
Maybe Bernie would be different, maybe not. I kind of doubt it.
Now Pittsburghs Rooney is backtracking. He's trying to say now that by not showing up for the anthem, they were trying to stay out of politics. Hahahahahahaha
Just PATHETIC, typical behavior of an *******, make a dumb move, blame everyone else for not understanding. Baffoon
Ratings were slightly up this week, especially for MNF. As I mentioned earlier, given the base of NFL fans, ratings are going to swing, period. We shouldn't be trying to read much into them until we have seasons' worth of data.
Originally posted by Sable
Now Pittsburghs Rooney is backtracking. He's trying to say now that by not showing up for the anthem, they were trying to stay out of politics. HahahahahahahaJust PATHETIC, typical behavior of an *******, make a dumb move, blame everyone else for not understanding. Baffoon
That actually mirrors the interview Mike Tomlin gave on this before the game. This was legitimately the intent of the team, to stay unified without requiring everyone to choose sides. As it happens, it's been wildly misinterpreted, as you're a prime example of. As I say, listening is important.
/srug
Sounds like damage control, probably under a lot of pressure from Rooney/other players.
Re: Life Long Steelers Fans Burn All Their Gear
Originally posted by Sable
Anti American Steelers can't even show up for the national anthem, youtube erupts in burn videos.
LOL. They are so triggered. Probably burned hundreds or thousand of dollars worth of merchandise instead of just selling it or even donating it. What a bunch of snowflake idiots
Originally posted by Digi
Ratings were slightly up this week, especially for MNF. As I mentioned earlier, given the base of NFL fans, ratings are going to swing, period. We shouldn't be trying to read much into them until we have seasons' worth of data.That actually mirrors the interview Mike Tomlin gave on this before the game. This was legitimately the intent of the team, to stay unified without requiring everyone to choose sides. As it happens, it's been wildly misinterpreted, as you're a prime example of. As I say, listening is important.
/srug
Nope sorry. He wanted to have it both ways. Didn't work.
Originally posted by Lestov16
So ignoring your illiteracy and inability to differentiate "of" and "or",why couldn't the jerseys be sold or donated?
Read what I said
Originally posted by Sable
Yes 4 people burned hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of jerseys. If you watched the videos, some of the people said they were donating it.
Originally posted by Sable
Nope sorry. He wanted to have it both ways. Didn't work.
Tomlin? Or Rooney? Tomlin was quite clear about the intent of it, before it happened, before the need for any spin due to it being misinterpreted. I think in ignoring his words entirely, and in fact believing the opposite in spite of his words, you're projecting your biases onto others to an extreme degree.
Go watch the Tomlin interview before the game, maybe? It's clear you haven't, and you only want to accept one version of this entire story.
Originally posted by Sable
It doesn't change he vilified them. People are sheep, if they hear him attacking millionaires and billionaires it just gives them confirmation bias.
Lots of people are impressionable and easily swayed without much forethought into what they support. Does their existence make you a conservative sheep, or me a progressive sheep, even if there is truth/merit in what we support?
Originally posted by cdtm
Sure. The deck is stacked rhetoric. Even successful rich people admit as much.The problem is, it's just rhetoric. Everyone works the crowds like this, but nobody actually does anything about it.
Maybe Bernie would be different, maybe not. I kind of doubt it.
Personally, I think the fact that Sanders actively fought for improving the laws and systems in place well before and after his presidential campaign speaks for itself.
Back to the topic, these clips of ex-fans burning their memorabilia are rather pathetic. Those clothes, blankets, and hats could have gone to help others. One lady mentioned selling what could be sold and donating to charity supporting veterans, and that seemed like a better way to get your point across and by simply burning it all. One guy was burning personal gifts from his daughter and grandkids, another was ranting about football players disrespecting veterans and Jesus.
But hey, it's their shit, bought and paid for...so whatever, I guess.
Originally posted by Sable
No one kneeled
Ok, so they got bent out of shape because all but one member of the team stayed off the field until the anthem was over. Villanueva and the rest of the team have come out to say that him standing out there alone was not part of the plan they had come up with as a team.
Villanueva apologizes for unintentionally throwing the team under the bus