Bronn of the Blackwater vs. Sandor Clegane the Hound

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thanks. Guess I really didn't remember it correctly. Still won't change my stance though.

Nor should it. The difference between Sandor and the Vale Knight is that Sandor is one of the toughest, most durable, most stamina having bastards in Westeros. He should be dead. No way around it. But he's just fine.

Sandor is also an insanely good fighter who knows how to use tactics and foul play to win. Like when he was teaching Arya about Needle and how it being so slender and tiny wouldn't get through plate armor. Then he kicked her in the chest because he was bigger and stronger and proving a point.

Bronn would be hard pressed to win this fight. And the ones he takes are more luck/f*ck ups on Hound's part.

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In an honest sword combat Sandor wins.

If Bronn gets his throwing knofes and a sword, then Bronn wins.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
In an honest sword combat Sandor wins.

If Bronn gets his throwing knofes and a sword, then Bronn wins.

Why would throwing knives help Bronn if Sandor gets his armor?

Originally posted by Darkstorm Zero
Why would throwing knives help Bronn if Sandor gets his armor?

A knife in the face won't help?

Bronn gets one throwing knife, a dagger and his sword. The Hound gets his armor and sword.

Originally posted by Rebel95
Bronn gets one throwing knife, a dagger and his sword. The Hound gets his armor and sword.

Bronn

Originally posted by Rebel95
Yeah he gets his armor that he wears when he fought Brienne

Thanks for clearing that up 👆

Originally posted by FrothByte
1. Yes it's very much in character, but I don't recall him having numerous knives. Just one or two. And I don't recall him being successful throwing one at a fully armored opponent... though I might be mistaken in this.

2. Did he kill him before? Guess I'm mixing this up with the book fight, where he defeated his foe by tiring him out then pushing him through the hole. Still, tiring a person in armor out only works if the person is stupid enough to chase after you while wearing armor. It worked for the Knight of the Vale because that knight's pride was on the line and he wanted to make short work of Bronn. If Bronn keeps running away from the Hound, Sandor can just stand still and wait for Bronn to close. That's what any man with a bit of common sense would do if he was wearing heavier armor.

3. The Hound has worn armor in far more battles than he's fought without. That makes it pretty standard IIRC, unless OP specifies otherwise.

1. I don't think he has thrown them at armored opponents but I was just stating that he does throw daggers so doing so wouldn't be out of character for him. I thought you were of the opinion that Bronn doesn't toss daggers but I it looks like we both agree he does. My bad. And yeah it's debatable how effective they might be

2. Someone posted the video so no need to dwell on this. I don't think Sandor would get rope-a-doped

3. Yes I know he has but current Sandor doesn't wear armor and hasn't in a min so I personally wouldn't consider it standard at this point. Now OP has stated he wants armor for Sandor so armor it is.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Thanks. Guess I really didn't remember it correctly. Still won't change my stance though.

Understandable. Sandor looks like a dumb brute but he's actually a clever guy. I doubt Bronn would so easily bait him

Originally posted by KingD19
Like when he was teaching Arya about Needle and how it being so slender and tiny wouldn't get through plate armor. Then he kicked her in the chest because he was bigger and stronger and proving a point.

It was a back hand actually 😛

Sandor wins

Originally posted by Inhuman
Sandor wins

I don't think so. Bronn isn't the traditional fighter. Bronn is the foxy fighter.

Sandor is a great swordman but Bronn is too cunning.

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I don't think so. Bronn isn't the traditional fighter. Bronn is the foxy fighter.

Sandor is a great swordman but Bronn is too cunning.

Yeah but cunning won't help you much when you're in a straight up fight against a much better fighter. Otherwise nerds would wipe the floor with jocks in straight up fist fights.

Plus Sandor isn't exactly a dumb fighter either.

The Hound is bigger and much stronger, plus he has superior combat feats. That knight that Bronn beat via trickery in Tyrion's trial by combat would have been cut to pieces by the Hound.

Bronn did defeat the Vale knight. But he got his ass handed to him by that Dothraki Bloodrider and had to haul ass out of there. Sandor's just got tons more fights and wins. Even his one real loss is extremely circumstantial. Brienne of Tarth would be dead if Hound had been 100% when they fought.

Originally posted by FrothByte
Yeah but cunning won't help you much when you're in a straight up fight against a much better fighter. Otherwise nerds would wipe the floor with jocks in straight up fist fights.

Plus Sandor isn't exactly a dumb fighter either.

Originally posted by Psychotron
The Hound is bigger and much stronger, plus he has superior combat feats. That knight that Bronn beat via trickery in Tyrion's trial by combat would have been cut to pieces by the Hound.

Originally posted by KingD19
Bronn did defeat the Vale knight. But he got his ass handed to him by that Dothraki Bloodrider and had to haul ass out of there. Sandor's just got tons more fights and wins. Even his one real loss is extremely circumstantial. Brienne of Tarth would be dead if Hound had been 100% when they fought.

Brains beats muscle.

Sandor is a better fighter but Bronn is smarter and faster.

Bronn still has a throwing knife which could stab Sandor's face.

Bronn could handle Sandor. He is intelligent enough.

Why do you think Hound is some idiot?

Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Brains beats muscle.

Sandor is a better fighter but Bronn is smarter and faster.

Bronn still has a throwing knife which could stab Sandor's face.

Bronn could handle Sandor. He is intelligent enough.

The Hound is no less intelligent, he just doesn't need to rely on his wits so much because he can overpower anyone in GoT not named The Mountain.

Yeah, if anything, Sandor consistently shows more common sense, intelligence and situational awareness than most GoT characters do. Granted, he does have the odd dunce moment (like throwing rocks at a zombie soldier), but those moments tend to be relatively rare.

In season 6 , The Hound killed multiple men with just a hand axe, and he wasn't wearing any armor either.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Yeah, if anything, Sandor consistently shows more common sense, intelligence and situational awareness than most GoT characters do. Granted, he does have the odd dunce moment (like throwing rocks at a zombie soldier), but those moments tend to be relatively rare.

Hah. If I was stuck for a whole night just staring at zombies who I knew couldn't get near me, I would have thrown rocks at them way earlier.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Granted, he does have the odd dunce moment (like throwing rocks at a zombie soldier).

What the plot demands, the plot demands 😂

Anyways, I back Sandor simply cause it's a duel. He's fought his brother briefly, he fought Brienne, he's fought wights, he's fought a tavern full of soldiers, he's fought those clowns in Season 6 that killed Ian McShane and co. He's fought with swords, warhammers, in duels, on battlefields.

With a duel setup like the OP here, Hound all the way.

In a battle or a duel in something like a warehouse with cover, concealment, and objects to use, Bronn.