Who killed JFK: Death bed confession

Originally posted by Foxsteak
Well, Reagan was shot in like his first year as president? That's like Trump getting shot now.

Kennedy was fighting and specifically targeting the CIA for over two years and had started his re election campaign as an incredibly popular president. So popular America was nicknamed Camelot, the greatest fictional castle ever.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
That doesn't really make a difference and only raises the question as to why wasn't the same done to JFK. Why wait for years as he's fighting and targeting your agency when they could've just sent JFK a message in the first months of his presidency as was done with Reagan?

Originally posted by Foxsteak
JFK had the mafia on his side, then went behind their back. Reagan was a film star in California.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Even if that's true, why would the CIA care about whether the President has the mafia on his side?

I don't understand your question. Why would the CIA care about a massive multi-billion dollar criminal organization being behind the US President? Would that not be an extremely important thing for the CIA, in very specific particulars, to care about? Of all the organizations, the CIA is the best suited organization for that with the FBI coming in a distant second.

Yeah, a President under the thumb of a corrupt organization like the Mafia seems like the kind of thing the CIA would be interested in.

Originally posted by socool8520
Yeah, a President under the thumb of a corrupt organization like the Mafia seems like the kind of thing the CIA would be interested in.

AG is good people: he may have a point and I am missing it. I'll wait for his response before I continue to shit on his idea.

Aaahhh, unless the premise is that Foxsteak believes that the Mafia would somehow defend or aid JFK if they came after him early on.

Then I would agree with Artificial Glory. The CIA would not be scared of the Mafia.

I stated that he turned on the mafia. He was on their side for campaign support then lost Cuba and tried thwarting CIA plans in Cuba which were beneficial to the Mafia.

The fact that he betrayed the mafia's trust and went behind the CIA is the context here.

Are you saying they didn't kill him sooner because at the time, the CIA and Mafia had similar goals?

Originally posted by 2142
We know the CIA and or Secret Service did it, we just don't know who.

After all he died shortly after he said he was going to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the wind.

The CIA has long been a Rouge Paramilitary Organization operating inside the US.

Shouldn't we get the documentation, now? Today? Where is it?

Originally posted by socool8520
Are you saying they didn't kill him sooner because at the time, the CIA and Mafia had similar goals?

Originally posted by socool8520
Aaahhh, unless the premise is that Foxsteak believes that the Mafia would somehow defend or aid JFK if they came after him early on.

Then I would agree with Artificial Glory. The CIA would not be scared of the Mafia.

Originally posted by 2142
There are some secrets that never come out, like Area 51, and other black sites, those are never revealed. They keep being re classified.

Originally posted by ArtificialGlory
Yeah, that's what I meant. If anything, the CIA would have killed him sooner.

My fault for missing out parts. JFK was on their side until the Cuban missle crisis.

I think it's likely his dad got mafia help in helping him win certain places, mainly Illinois. Was the mafia on his side? Probably not after his bro started going after them.

That is one of the theories some put forth for a mob hit behind JFKs death. They helped him with the election and then he let his brother go after them, so they got mad. They could have carried it out, they could not have covered it up though. They would have needed help.

the Kennedy's became prominent bootlegging with the mafia

Indeed, and it earned Joe Kennedy an appearance on Boardwalk Empire.

#WorthIt

Originally posted by Foxsteak
The CIA has ties with the mafia.

My fault for missing out parts. JFK was on their side until the Cuban missle crisis.

JFK was intending to splinter the CIA up before he died. I don't think they work hand in hand with the mafia or anything. I'm sure there are people they do get tips from, etc.

In the past yeah there was a time when the mafia could accomplish things our government agencies couldn't, but unfortunately we learned to really out-shady them.

Originally posted by Surtur
JFK was intending to splinter the CIA up before he died. I don't think they work hand in hand with the mafia or anything. I'm sure there are people they do get tips from, etc.

In the past yeah there was a time when the mafia could accomplish things our government agencies couldn't, but unfortunately we learned to really out-shady them.

1960 would have been between Lyndon Johnson and Richard Nixon but Kennedy surprised everyone.

Then he tries to take down the CIA who were working in mafia interests to get rid of Castro and bring it back under US control. The Russians planned to put missles in Cuba and Kennedy had no choice but to stop CIA raids in Cuba. The people behind the raids were involved in the Kennedy assassination only to later be in the watergate scandal.