How powerful is Kylo Ren? (TFA)

In The Force Awakens, it's kinda hard to tell exactly how good Kylo is because of the circumstances of his duel with Rey. But he does have some impressive feats in the movie. How powerful do you think Kylo is, as of TFA? Who is someone in canon that he is comparable to? And how much do you expect he will have grown by The Last Jedi?

I'll decide how good he was in TFA after I see TLJ.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'll decide how good he was in TFA after I see TLJ.

Based on everything we have about him, I'd say he's > an above average Jedi Master. Maybe lower level Council Member.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
I'll decide how good he was in TFA after I see TLJ.

Personally I'd put him at Jedi Knight level. Above the average knight in power but below in knowledge/skill.

Originally posted by Rebel95
it's kinda hard to tell exactly how good Kylo is because of the circumstances of his duel with Rey.

Of course there were no circumstances when Rey overpowered Kylo telepathically. Duels aren't the only ways to compare power levels.

Qui Gon >> Kylo Ren

Below Obi-Wan as a Padawan or Luke after Bens training.

He has great potential. I believe that collectively, all force users become more powerful with the times (like natural selection) so Kylo may just be average for his period but above average when compared to the prequel period.

He had some of the best Force feats I've seen in the movies, but then that's just the movies. Holistically his potential is probably on par with someone like Vader, he's just not mastered it yet and his sabers skills are meh. All speculation tho.

He will eclipse Vader in this film. As I've said from the beginning both he and Snoke will be greater than Vader and the emperor by the trilogy's end.

He's extremely powerful, then again I've actually read the literature about him.

Originally posted by AncientPower
He's extremely powerful, then again I've actually read the literature about him.

The duel doesn't count. The novel makes it explicitly clear that he could barely even connect to the Force because of that bowcaster wound. It is also stated that he could barely stand.

No I agree, the movie even goes out of its way several times to demonstrate how powerful Chewie's bowcaster is.

I'm just saying that Rey probably has a lot of raw power that she was able to tap into as well, because Kylo was actually winning the duel--even with his injury--until he mentioned the force to her.

^ None of that matters given Rey already overpowered him in the mind reading/resisting contest. No one was injured at that point.

The novel makes no reference to any overpowering, Kylo is stunned by her power and she reverses it which catches him offguard.

It is very important that he was beating her ass despite his massive centerpoint injury, because she needed an enlightenment moment to defeat even a severely wounded Kylo.

Kylo is conflicted as heck during TFA, and we all know how detrimental it to ones connection to the force, well in legends it.

I'd wager Kylo in his prime would, compete with ReySue Prime.
Afterall he is 1/4th chosen one.